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Watchmen/Focus Hybrid


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ML_DoubleTap
10.19.2012 , 12:05 PM | #1
Had been thinking about this for a while and decided to try it out last night. Here is the build. Lose out on Force Exaustion for Overload Saber and Searing Saber. Searing Saber along with Focussed Resonance adds 60% crit multiplier to your burns. So, if you're at 75-80% crit mult already your looking at 135% on burns. Losing FE drops the opportunity for Singularity but between Zen, Force Stasis and Valorous Call it's still around fairly often.

I beat on the combat dummies for a while and then hit SM KP to test it out in the 'real world'. My Sent is an alt and doesn't have the greatest gear at this point, so numbers have a lot of room for improvement. Here is the log. Hitting 1399dps on Karagga in this gear seemed pretty solid. Surge is quite a bit lower than it should be to really take advantage of the Force Sweep and burns. So, ironing that out and getting up to black hole would be a pretty significant boost. Also, since it was my first night trying this build there's obviously some room for getting more comfortable with it.
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seektravota
10.21.2012 , 06:31 AM | #2
Nice thoughts! I should try that too.
I have similar stats but seems you pull much more dps.
Glad to see people trying out something other than simple watchman spec.

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seektravota
10.21.2012 , 06:33 AM | #3
my question is: what form you use? Shi-co? or Juyo?

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seektravota
10.21.2012 , 07:00 AM | #4
have you parsed watchman spec in the same gear?
my stats are 854 bonus damage, 35% crit (without smug buf), 107% surge.
i parsed your hybrid spec with this on the op dummy the result is 1300.

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seektravota
10.21.2012 , 03:44 PM | #5
dude i just parsed, this spec has higher parsing result than watchman at least on my toon. can you parse both watchman and this hybrid and let me know your result?
i think this spec is viable. it has the sustain of watchman and burst aoe of focus.

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Acegi
10.22.2012 , 08:21 PM | #6
I parsed full watchman spec (31/3/7) for 20 minutes and this hybrid for 45 minutes on the ops dummy and I ended up getting about 40 DPS more with the hybrid

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seektravota
10.23.2012 , 12:24 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Acegi View Post
I parsed full watchman spec (31/3/7) for 20 minutes and this hybrid for 45 minutes on the ops dummy and I ended up getting about 40 DPS more with the hybrid
omg! I Just parsed. this hybrid spec has higher dps!
I'm full rakata on my watchman I do 1526 over 6min.
Then I switched to this hybrid spec, I did 1604 over 6min. Insane!!

Now forget about watchman! I'm gonna stick with this hybrid now. Not only it has higher single target damage, the aoe is also helpful in boss fights clearing adds etc. So this one will definitely do more damage than watchman.

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Xiij
11.05.2012 , 12:58 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by seektravota View Post
my question is: what form you use? Shi-co? or Juyo?
Was wondering the same thing.

Edit:

Never mind, it's pretty clear your in Shii-cho now that I look at it some more.
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Atlanis
11.05.2012 , 04:09 PM | #9
Just tested it on the Puppet in T4 Gear:

DPS relevant Stats:
2232 Strength
40.23 % Crit (Melee)
100.23% Accuracy (Melee)
77.54% Crit Multi (Melee)
586 BonusDmg (Melee)
47.23% Crit (Force)
110.23% Accuracy (Force)
77.54% Crit Multi
976 BonusDmg (Force)

My normal Spec is:
31/7/3 ---> Taking the Defensive Abillities from the Central Tree and the 6% Crit Bonus for Force

I used, all 4 Class buffs and an Exotech Stim:

In My normal Spec:

6 Min Fights: 1798DPS, 1824DPS, 1845 DPS
(Roundabout 100k Heal at the same time)

I tried your Spec :

6Min Fights (Juyo): 1543DPS, 1489DPS,1609 DPS
6 Min Fights (Shi-Sho): 1634 DPS, 1563 DPS, 1589 DPS

The Hybrid seems Crap for Endcontent Raiding. Notice I play as you see a Crit-Oriantated Wachman aka I am a dying Species, even on the European Servers. The most people nowadays stack 0 Crit and only Power as Wachmans. They do less DMG or are at least less usable in a Raid I can assure you that^^
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Xiij
11.06.2012 , 12:41 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Atlanis View Post
Just tested it on the Puppet in T4 Gear:

DPS relevant Stats:
2232 Strength
40.23 % Crit (Melee)
100.23% Accuracy (Melee)
77.54% Crit Multi (Melee)
586 BonusDmg (Melee)
47.23% Crit (Force)
110.23% Accuracy (Force)
77.54% Crit Multi
976 BonusDmg (Force)

My normal Spec is:
31/7/3 ---> Taking the Defensive Abillities from the Central Tree and the 6% Crit Bonus for Force

I used, all 4 Class buffs and an Exotech Stim:

In My normal Spec:

6 Min Fights: 1798DPS, 1824DPS, 1845 DPS
(Roundabout 100k Heal at the same time)

I tried your Spec :

6Min Fights (Juyo): 1543DPS, 1489DPS,1609 DPS
6 Min Fights (Shi-Sho): 1634 DPS, 1563 DPS, 1589 DPS
I appreciate the stats and parses. This spec looks like it has potential at least; I was wondering what skill priority you were using on the hybrid spec; I wasn't able to come up with one that "suits my fancy".

Quote: Originally Posted by Atlanis View Post
The Hybrid seems Crap for Endcontent Raiding. Notice I play as you see a Crit-Oriantated Wachman aka I am a dying Species, even on the European Servers. The most people nowadays stack 0 Crit and only Power as Wachmans.
Yes unfortunately you are a dying breed. However, I'd like to try some more extensive parses using my gear (power stacking watchman) to see if there is a large difference in results.

Quote: Originally Posted by Atlanis View Post
They do less DMG or are at least less usable in a Raid I can assure you that^^
Can you provide numbers proving this? Because I'm pretty sure this is not true; but that is an argument for another thread (like this , this, or this).
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[W]e really shouldn't feed trolls. They are like stray cats. Once you feed them once they come back. When you continue to feed them, they grow in numbers.