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An in-depth look at: Lightsaber Forms- Ataru

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An in-depth look at: Lightsaber Forms- Ataru

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Aurbere
10.18.2012 , 05:47 PM | #1
"Judge me by my size, do you?"- Grand Master Yoda, Master of Ataru

We continue our look at the Lightsaber forms with Ataru. Cin Drallig continues...

Form IV, also called Ataru, is the most acrobatic Form, filled with numerous elaborate moves, and relies heavily upon a Jedi's ability to run, jump, and spin using the Force. Form IV can be astonishing to watch. By incorporating all the Force powers that enable one to exceed standard norms of physical possibilities, Jedi may resemble nothing less than a blur when they utilize Form IV. Yes, it is true that Yoda is an Form IV master. Although it has been many years since Yoda has graced us with a demonstration, the Jedi Archives holds a collection of databooks that are testament to his mastery and prowess.

So what do we know about Ataru? It is an acrobatic form that emphasizes elaborate flips and wide strikes. A Jedi using Ataru can move quite fast and strike quickly. This is evident with Master Yoda's mastery of the form. The diminutive Jedi uses the speed and acrobatics of Ataru, combined with his short stature, to make up for his size and dominate Lightsaber duels.

Form IV is not without its weaknesses, however. The wide arcs Jedi make using Ataru can leave themselves open to blaster fire. Yoda makes up for this with his size and speed, but a standard Jedi is not so lucky. However, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn had mastered Ataru to the extent that he had effectively eliminated the Form's weakness to blaster fire. Form IV is also weakest in close quarters as the Form's acrobatics are neutralized. We see this in Qui-Gon's duel with the Sith Lord Darth Maul.

Overall, Ataru is a decent form that can best many Lightsaber Forms in battle. But Form's like Djem So can use their brute strength to cripple the defenses of Ataru. This requires that the Djem So user actually hit the Ataru user.

Known Form IV Masters: Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn

This is personally my favorite Form. I like the speed and agility that it provides.

You can see Soresu here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=545066

Next is Shien/Djem So

If you have a topic you would like to see in the future, post them here or send me a message.
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10.18.2012 , 05:59 PM | #2
Good job once again. I can't wait for the next one!
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10.18.2012 , 06:03 PM | #3
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Good job once again. I can't wait for the next one!
Thank you very much. I can't either!
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TalonVII
10.18.2012 , 06:24 PM | #4
Well done, but if i had to pick a form, it would be shien/djem so. Which i consider the Kendo form of SW.

But like the ataru form.

Infact when luke fought vader the last time, you can see a lot of influence of Ataru in his moves.
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10.18.2012 , 06:38 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by TalonVII View Post
Well done, but if i had to pick a form, it would be shien/djem so. Which i consider the Kendo form of SW.

But like the ataru form.

Infact when luke fought vader the last time, you can see a lot of influence of Ataru in his moves.
I don't think Luke was using specificly Ataru, but I did see some Ataru moves in that duel. I don't think there were any specific Lightsaber forms during the making of the film. If I had to pick now, I'd say he was using a mix of Ataru and Djem So. Djem So seemed to come naturally to him, maybe because of Anakin...?

I like the Djem So form as well. Plo Koon was a master of it.
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10.18.2012 , 06:41 PM | #6
In my opinion Djem So and Ataru would make a good combination. You have the strength of Djem So and the mobility and speed of Ataru.
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10.18.2012 , 06:56 PM | #7
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In my opinion Djem So and Ataru would make a good combination. You have the strength of Djem So and the mobility and speed of Ataru.
It actually would make a good combination. I think Makashi would be that combination, not sure though. I would like to see one like that though!
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10.18.2012 , 07:00 PM | #8
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It actually would make a good combination. I think Makashi would be that combination, not sure though. I would like to see one like that though!
Makashi and Soresu would be a good combination as well.
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10.18.2012 , 07:20 PM | #9
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Makashi and Soresu would be a good combination as well.
Alot of Forms would be good combinations, but there might be some drawbacks to combining Forms. Like Soresu and Makashi, you might have to give up some Soresu's defenses in order to implement Makashi's finesse and Maneuverability. Or Djem So and Ataru, you would have to give up some speed in order to implement Djem So's strength.

I think the best Form, balance-wise, is Niman. It has an excellent balance of aggression, speed, and defense.
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10.18.2012 , 07:32 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Alot of Forms would be good combinations, but there might be some drawbacks to combining Forms. Like Soresu and Makashi, you might have to give up some Soresu's defenses in order to implement Makashi's finesse and Maneuverability. Or Djem So and Ataru, you would have to give up some speed in order to implement Djem So's strength.

I think the best Form, balance-wise, is Niman. It has an excellent balance of aggression, speed, and defense.
That is true.
"Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. We fight for justice because justice is the fundamental bedrock of civilization: an unjust civilization is built upon sand. It does not long survive a storm." - Mace Windu