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TheBetty
10.17.2012 , 06:34 PM | #1
Hi Guys,

I know this is a stupid question but I want to be 100% on the matter before I start the massive remodding and re-augmenting I am about to do.

When you see all Mara builds and specs guides on forums, they state that you want 30% crit unbuffed. I just want to be clear. Are they referring to melee crit or Force/special crit. Obviously your Force/special crit is higher than your melee. I'm just wondering if I can drop a few % points of force crit to stack mass power.

Thanks
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Brittaany_Banks
10.17.2012 , 06:37 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBetty View Post
Hi Guys,

I know this is a stupid question but I want to be 100% on the matter before I start the massive remodding and re-augmenting I am about to do.

When you see all Mara builds and specs guides on forums, they state that you want 30% crit unbuffed. I just want to be clear. Are they referring to melee crit or Force/special crit. Obviously your Force/special crit is higher than your melee. I'm just wondering if I can drop a few % points of force crit to stack mass power.

Thanks
Melee Crit. I suggest at least 35% crit without the smuggler buff though
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TheBetty
10.17.2012 , 06:44 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Brittaany_Banks View Post
Melee Crit. I suggest at least 35% crit without the smuggler buff though
40% melee crit buffed? That too high I think. Seeing as everything besides assault in a carnage rotation is considered special.
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EnalisNailo
10.17.2012 , 07:17 PM | #4
30% crit is correct, pretty sure beyond 30 you start seeing diminishing returns anyways.
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TheBetty
10.17.2012 , 07:25 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by EnalisNailo View Post
30% crit is correct, pretty sure beyond 30 you start seeing diminishing returns anyways.
Is that melee or force?
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EnalisNailo
10.17.2012 , 07:33 PM | #6
Melee, your force will always be higher as it gets a slight boost from willpower in addition to your strength.
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TheBetty
10.17.2012 , 07:59 PM | #7
Ok. So I'll need to boost my crit back up. I just noticed there was another thread going in regards to Crit vs Power. lol I didn't realise it was such an ongoing debate. Reminds me of the ongoing debate of Massacre vs Vicious Slash
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Brittaany_Banks
10.21.2012 , 06:53 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBetty View Post
40% melee crit buffed? That too high I think. Seeing as everything besides assault in a carnage rotation is considered special.
Between the smuggler buff, willpower, and crit chance stacking I am sitting at 44.61% crit chance

It guarantees a crit when I use force potency
It essentially guarantees a crit on my healing trance which makes resource management a breeze and I do not need to use my HoT to increase my chance of crtting on it.

My Sentinel is roughly in the same boat stacking crit chance, surge, and strength. Shes combat spec'd though and crit chance and surge really helps there
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Ryvirath
10.21.2012 , 07:49 AM | #9
The prevailing logic for pvp has been to pretty much minimize crit as much as power/surge will allow. 26-7% buffed is pretty standard for a min maxed marauder. The idea is to leverage the benefits of your guaranteed crits as much as possible.

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Omophorus
10.22.2012 , 09:14 AM | #10
Blah blah blah, about the eleventeenth time I'm making this post.

Crit% is almost irrelevant, as it's dependent on main stat, Crit Rating, and IA buff.

The only component of that worth talking about (because it's the only one you might conceivably remove for something else) is Crit Rating.

123-329 Crit Rating seems to be the window in which you get your greatest benefit, depending on spec and PVP/PVE, and you're basically fine if you're within that window.

If you're over 300ish Crit Rating, you should focus on getting it down.

If you're under 100ish Crit Rating, and you're not primarily a PVPer and spec'd Rage, you should try to get it up a bit. Both Annihilation and Carnage (and Rage in PVE) benefit from some modicum of crit chance, and the ROI on the first 100-120 points is fantastic.