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Arlon_Nabarlly
10.19.2012 , 11:42 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by RickyBOL View Post
Btw I have something in my mind that haunts me: i'm a subscriber now so I can access lot of things (btw I really think I'm going to create that new pureblood sith warrior I had in mind in very short time) like (quite) all the species, in-game credits payed inventory expansions, 3 crew skills and other things.
What will happen to what I already have IF i choose not to be a subscriber anymore? My main has 3 crew skills at 400 but f2p players can only have 1 crew skill, so my question is: what happen to the other 2 if I become a f2p player? The same question applies to everything else I have NOW as a subscriber and I'm using NOW.
I'd like to know more about it 'cause it'll be REALLY disappointing to lose everything (I mean DELETED) 'cause I choosed to become a F2P. I could understand a lock on features F2P players are not supposed to have but I won't like it because I've already payed something. I mean, as a former subscriber I think I should have access to everything I could have until the end of my subscription.
Let's say that someday every character can have 4 crew skills. When I was a subscriber the game only allowed 3 cw so 3 are the cw I should have. Now I'm a F2P player and Bioware decides that cw can be 4 BUT only for subscribers. So it's ok that I should buy the 4th skill on the cartel market OR subscribe again and gain that new feature "free" even when my new subscription will end. I hope it's clear what I mean and I'd like to have answers about this topic
They've already said that characters with invalid races for F2P or extra toons will not be deleted. I would assume same is true with crewskills, 2 woudl be grayed out and unsuable (of have an icon that say "subscribe today" or links to pack to buy the option. They won't delete anything you loose access too, infact they will probably make sure you can still see it hoping to lure you into paying for it.

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Mettilix
10.19.2012 , 11:58 AM | #62
I only have 2 issues. First, the species. They are all equal in terms of stats, so why limit them? Seems pretty pointless. Also, the warzones. I myself am an on/off PVP gamer, and am dissapointed in the idea of a limit that is so small. Really, 3 a week? I, personally don't see a point to the limit in general. I wouldn't have minded the cap increase and new planet, because the core is still there, but to eliminate or reduce so many things common to the game is quite confusing.

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Nerdcommando
10.19.2012 , 12:15 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroPlus View Post
REGARDING CHARACTER CREATION/SELECTION

(NOTE: I plan on staying a subscriber as long as I'm playing SWTOR. But I do play enough to justify that. My friend on the other hand, really is unable to justify subscribing to something he is able to play for maybe an hour a week. I think that Free2Play is a great model for him and others like him. I really don't get why so many people are talking of dropping their subscription when F2P comes as if it is a mandatory change. F2P is "another" option to play and *NOT* the only way.)
So the game should be entirely free for anyone who is busy? This is a business. The truth is once they stop making "enough" (being worth the expenditure of resources) money the servers get unplugged. So if your friend cares that much about not paying he/she should just reroll now and save the heartache. Otherwise he/she can shell out the extra couple of bucks to use a different race for said character.

Either way I need your frerind paying into this game so I can continue to play.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. - Steven Wright

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Bleakmage
10.19.2012 , 12:16 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman_sith View Post
Looks good. But as a paying subscriber, why are you giving the F2p people only 3 Warzones per week???????? This shouldn't even be on the table, either unlimited or a high number, I want these people to increase the number of Warzones running on the servers especially in off peek, 3 Warzones is nothing, it's just nothing, what if they get in a Warzone that has 1 minute left. End of story that number most rise or the whole of the Internet will lash out on swtor again.

You just have to increase that number. If you want to give the a taste.
And imagine if they were all Huttball on any given week, lol.

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JamieKirby
10.19.2012 , 01:58 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by theborch View Post
Give us price ranges of items so we know if our cartel coins are worth anything useful.
It will likely be crap stuff that we never use, like mini-pets, i never use them, never see the point in them, they do nothing.

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macabdul
10.19.2012 , 02:22 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by RickyBOL View Post
Btw I have something in my mind that haunts me: i'm a subscriber now so I can access lot of things (btw I really think I'm going to create that new pureblood sith warrior I had in mind in very short time) like (quite) all the species, in-game credits payed inventory expansions, 3 crew skills and other things.
What will happen to what I already have IF i choose not to be a subscriber anymore? My main has 3 crew skills at 400 but f2p players can only have 1 crew skill, so my question is: what happen to the other 2 if I become a f2p player? The same question applies to everything else I have NOW as a subscriber and I'm using NOW.
I'd like to know more about it 'cause it'll be REALLY disappointing to lose everything (I mean DELETED) 'cause I choosed to become a F2P. I could understand a lock on features F2P players are not supposed to have but I won't like it because I've already payed something. I mean, as a former subscriber I think I should have access to everything I could have until the end of my subscription.
Let's say that someday every character can have 4 crew skills. When I was a subscriber the game only allowed 3 cw so 3 are the cw I should have. Now I'm a F2P player and Bioware decides that cw can be 4 BUT only for subscribers. So it's ok that I should buy the 4th skill on the cartel market OR subscribe again and gain that new feature "free" even when my new subscription will end. I hope it's clear what I mean and I'd like to have answers about this topic
I play another game that went f2p and I'm guessing it'll be something similar. If you have 12 characters and go f2p then, when you first log in, you have to choose the 3 you want. You also have to choose the one skill you want and lose the rest (well, not quite lose, they just remain unavailable until you go back to being a paid sub).

Nothing was deleted. It just became unavailable.

You may even be able to purchase a character slot unlock and either roll a new character or unlock one of the others you have.

The other game also had a new 'coin' added in the exact same structure cartel coins have. The other game became a store fest with a million (exaggerated) vanity items added.

That game goes the way of the dodo at the end of november this year, lol

And to those that might ask that if they go f2p why should they lose any of the content they have 'paid' for. Here's what I keep getting told (by friends). You didn't pay for that content, you paid to play that content, not own it. Stop paying and why should you be able to play the content?

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macabdul
10.19.2012 , 02:38 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by RickyBOL View Post
I tend to trust only what I see and read. You can't blame someone for doing something you SUPPOSED he shouldn't do
So why bother asking? Do you really think people like you and me could in any way answer your question?

I have experience of going f2p. Nothing was deleted, it was just unavailable until I subbed again.

I was able to purchase the expansions and other content with the 'currency' they added and can even purchase that currency for rl money and can't see why this game would be in any way different.

They want your money, they are a business. Where is the business in deleting forever anything you have?

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macabdul
10.19.2012 , 02:42 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Vespassian View Post
This. Looks. Amazing.
Lol. Where?

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Enochx
10.19.2012 , 07:13 PM | #69
First of all, I just resubbed, but I was here when the game launched. Most of my characters are Purebloods. If I decide to switch to F2P I understand that my characters will not be erased. However, since mine are already purebloods, will I still be able to play them?
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

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denpic
10.19.2012 , 07:21 PM | #70
Serious question What can f2p players expect when starting out on the dying Apac servers
Will they be met with a small population of extremely angry players
Please fix these servers so the Apac f2p players have something worth logging into each day
And not the experience us paying customers have received for months
Players are rerolling off these servers due to a lack of action on biowares part compounding the issue
In their current state these server will hardly promote any good for this game