Stupid F2P Restrictions

You realize of course how completely different the things you are suggesting are I assume. You are trying to get them to change an untested, and therefore NEVER proven to be incorrect, business model. And you are showing that they changed an insignificant name for one of the AC's in the game as proof they will listen to you.

Naming the AC after polling the community is brilliant PR and I totally agree with that decision. Allowing that same community to alter your researched and chosen new business practices based on nothing other than a few players suggestions is something totally totally different.

As I've mentioned you have the right to post anything that isn't against the forum rules here and I completely respect that but you have to realize it is silly to expect them to listen to you. I think the second part is the major part there. Many people 'hope' they will listen but some of our members that are doing themselves a disservice and continuing this admittedly pointless discussion have the expectation that 'either Bioware listens to me or they fail' which is delusional on many levels.

some of the problems with the proposed f2p model is that anyone with even half a brain knows that what any f2p mmorpg game (korean or otherwise) is far superior to the castrated, version SWTOR will become.

Inability to even do daily pvp/fp missions for more than 1-2 days
ZERO contribution to p2p folks @ 50, and minimal contribution to levelling p2p (Flashpoint/Warzone queues arent gonna change THAT much)

And yeah, f2p shouldn't be getting everything we (subbers) currently have, but they sure as hell aren't gonna want to stick around with the castration, since any other mmorpg offers them far more base features, AND offers pay-to-win content (such as the exp boosts, faster travel, outright purchasing of end-game equipment, etc)

Loathe as I am to say it.... Runescape has been doing the free-to-play, pay-to-win for years.


Given that I'm really an altoholic, and that my current PC drops a deuce everytime I load 1 client of SWTOR, but easily permits upto TWENTY EVE: Online accounts.... let's see, lag during loading for SWTOR Flashpoints and get kicked out and be paying real cash (subscription or flashpoint permit pass), or go multi-box 20 eve online accounts, and occasionally rolling some new alt to mess around and solo missions.

so NOT 99 percent of gamers then

Well, I still think Preferred accounts need a bit more distinction from F2P. At least if they are to be enticing to former players.

I really believe allowing two more unlocked slots, for a total of three characters plus a timer on warzones and flashpoints (1 a day each) would make the system perfect IMO.

Expensive permanent unlocks are also important IMO. On average a person should be able to pay around 15 times a subscription rate to unlock almost ever single item in the game permanently (225.00 in equivalent CC}...call it a lifetime sub.

They still would not get the cartel coin bonus each month, and perhaps a few other minor bonuses compared to sub members.

The best thing about this is that since only paid players can post on the forums, this is the last thread we'll ever need to see on this topic.

this.

They said: you get to enjoy your class story for free, meaning all missions and such will be for free. If you don't level like that and instead use flash points or PvP, you will be disappointed. They never promised you PvP levelers anything. "Assumption is the mother of all F*** ups" was once said in an old movie and this applies here too.

Perhaps you don't realize it, but in F2P games, you pay alot more a month than what the sub costs, unless you are satisfied with what you get for nothing.

Amen to that.

It's going to be strange to see the forums empty compared to what it is now....

The current restrictions for the F2P will make the whole F2P changeover be a flop, its too tight they need to loosen up the restrictions.

''Let say 5 deaths, make it it 10.
Only 5 Warzones, make it 10.''

^ Example

Just double the current restrictions or remove some.

It isn't five deaths its five med probes that rez you on the spot.