Stupid F2P Restrictions

Poeple demand an option to play the game without having to pay a sub

Bioware breaks (again) and gives them what they want. They can play their character for 100% free

People complain because they got what they asked for but they still want everything for no effort

Lolno. GW2 is that way ---->

How many things are wrong with this post?

Well, lets see....Bioware didn't break IMO, they had no choice. Because the original design intent flopped for the most part. It was an arrogant decision to launch with an incomplete product under a sub in this modern MMO age. They are not going F2P because we demanded it from my perspective, they did so because they want profits. And it turned out this was the way to get them.

I have as of yet to find one single person that wants everything for no effort. Still looking for the very elusive community member....

And of course, the infamous "if you dont like it, get out"....looks like 700k to 1.2 million players did exactly that. Only so many people can "get out" before the game closes its doors.

Its a silly thing to say IMO.

On this we agree and I have said as much in this thread and others.

Have you never read any posts on THESE forums about people complaining and whining about "not having enough time to play". These people rage about having a life and family and working 10000hrs a week, blah blah blah ...and want to have all the best gear handed to them. There have been quite a few posts here on this. These people that are so buisy that they SHOULDN'T EVEN BE PLAYING AN MMORPG in the first place? THOSE people exist. Just watch the forums I am sure another whine post will pop up.

Most of those that left were because of the reason you stated above and not due to the meme that EAware is trying to spread stating that it was BECAUSE of the Subscription. It was not the "price of the subscription". It was "what you got for the subscription" which we agree was suboptimal in todays MMORPG market. I just want to continue to bring this up to fight the EAware meme as to why they went F2P. It was NOT the "price" of the sub. It was the fact that the "quality" of SWTOR was not worth the "price" of the sub at the time of the mass exodus.

Thats only one part of it, the other part is to allow players just to pay for what they like. For example say you only like pvp, well then you can buy a PvP week pass for say (just guessing here) $2, now if you play regularly each month then thats $8 a month and you get all the pvp you want and pay about 1/2 of what you would pay if you subscribed to the game.

What I'm seeing is a lot of people arguing for the entire game to be free and just have the option of paying for fluff items in the cash shop, this is a poor business model as Bioware will lose a ton of money as there is NO incentive to be a subscriber, not to mention a lot of people could care less about fluff items and would spend virtual no money in the cash shop, only way to fix that would be to add Pay to Win items which most people would not want.

Bottom line is Bioware does not want to convert there existing subscribers into F2P players, they want the subscriptions but are just offering F2P options for those who only want to pay for certain aspects of the game (like pvp only) or for those players who don't play 24/7, that way a person could just pay for a week's worth of game time which would be cheaper then a whole month subscription which they wouldnt use due to real life issues and responsibilities..... it's also a way to get people to try out SWTOR who never had.

You didn't point out too much, honestly.

Heaven forbid a brand spanking new game has technical issues. I think Bioware's devotion to their customer base has gone above and beyond to the point where they're changing everything they wanted this game to be, and soon it probably won't even be technically their's anymore. But people still complain, and Bioware still folds to the pressure. How long do you expect them to "pay for their mistakes"?

Read the posts in this thread. The people who are complaining about these "restrictions", when in fact they're lucky to be getting anything at all without having to pay anything above the game cost for it. They got what they wanted but they want everything the full game has to offer without paying anything.

That's directed at all the people who want to turn this game into every other game they've played, the ones who demanded Free to Play, mainly. I felt they needed to know that this isn't the game they're looking for.

On the whole issue of 1.7 million players leaving (not even sure that number is accurate) but guess what people, please name me a MMO that has kept there active numbers over million players besides WoW? You can't because bottom line is people have become bored with MMO's for the most part, they have played the same MMO Mechanics for over 10 years now, every MMO out there besides WOW have had numbers in the low 200k mark. SWTOR is not a bad game the problem is it's not different enough from the other MMOs on the market, the only thing that made SWTOR stand out is its story but once you do it and hit 50 there's not much else to do. This is a common issue with a lot of MMO's...

WoW was the first MMO to perfect the theme park design so it got a ton of subscribers, most people prefer to just stick with it then play another MMO which is basiacly a clone of WoW.

The F2P service will probably bump EA's sales for this game but it's not going to make it a WOW killer, the only thing that can do that is to create addictive fun end game content which Bioware has yet to do.

Bears repeating. The MMO market has crashed in a big way. Even wow is affected.

What the heck are you talking about? Oh ok, I understand, You wanted to sail the F2P boat with the same rights of a sub player. Not possible mate. And remember that F2P gamers are used to these kind of stuff. So, sorry for you, but if you want to continue to have your rights you need to keep your subscription alive.

P.S. I really like the restrictions of F2P, Good Job BW/EA.

I kinda wish they would have done something more in thie vien:

Thank you. FINALLY there is someone who understands what free is and why you can't get everything you want if you don't pay something for it.

The thing I'm most worried about is that there are going to be a bunch of spoiled teenagers and college kids that are going to try to ruin things for everyone else. There is going to be a HUGE spike in the use of the /ignore command and the Report function in game. Watch and see.

Other than that, I actually like what I have seen in the first video and I can't wait to see what BW and EA have in store next. Party Jawas > Ninja Pandas!