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Stupid F2P Restrictions


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Galbatorrix
10.18.2012 , 11:40 AM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by Coldin View Post
Sure they can. Lots of other F2P games out there.
And they give you everything for free without the need to ever spend any money?

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Monoth
10.18.2012 , 11:42 AM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by Muesliac View Post
Thing is: Getting sprint at level 14 worked for subscribers less than a year ago. The game hardly becomes unplayable for the F2Pers.
And they don'T pay. They can play for free. And that means that there HAVE to be certain advantages for subscribers (otherwise, what would be the point of subbing?). And one of those is just that: Having commodities. Like being able to Sprint at level 1, instead of having to play for 14 levels without it.

The game doesn't become unplayable if you don't have it. As I said: People played that way at release, and were fine with it.

Now, F2P getting the class story for free, but not the other quests, that would be a case of "more than commodity" for me. It's purely a matter of scope: Move at slightly lower speed outside of combat for a few levels, or not having any content to play?
Not to mention that it only takes most people a day or two to get to level 14 in order to get the sprint feature... Hardcore players will probably do it in a few hours...
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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ScarletBlaze
10.18.2012 , 11:45 AM | #363
There will be some things subscribers get that F2P don't and that is the way it should be.

Just because you are choosing to play the game is the F2P subscription plan other than the other one doesn't mean you should get everything a $15.00 subscriber gets. There has to be some differences and in addition Bioware when they first announced the F2P plan they did state at the beginning there would be some perks that the regular subscriber would have that the F2P wouldn't have.

This has always been stated from the day they announced the F2P even though the specifics were not mention.

The ony perk I see that I disagree with is the purple armor as some of that drops as when you are leveling.

Regarding the sprint it was not that big of deal at launch as most of the people had no problem with it and it is not really that important as it does not effect your gameplay. It is just maybe a convience, which half the time I don't even use,.
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Monoth
10.18.2012 , 11:46 AM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
And they give you everything for free without the need to ever spend any money?
Some F2P games do in the hopes that you will spend money on fluff items and Pay to Win items....

If Bioware went true Free to play then they would need to add Pay to Win Items in order to make any money, and IMO that would probably destroy the game....
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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Muesliac
10.18.2012 , 11:48 AM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
You're missing the point. They weren't saying "I had to wait, so should you". They're saying "I did just fine with out it, so if you don't want to pay, you'll do just fine too".

Big difference.
Indeed :-).

I have no problem with others getting commodity features I had to do without. I just wanted to point out that some of the 'restrictions' in F2P really aren't a big deal. Others are, but "Not getting Sprint at Level 1" isn't one of them.
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Urael
10.18.2012 , 11:49 AM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
The ony perk I see that I disagree with is the purple armor as some of that drops as when you are leveling.
Hmmm this just occurred to me concering this subject:

Do they mean ALL purple or specific Purple.

Purple = Artifact (super rare) items, much less common than blue. Schematics for purple versions of blue items can be learned by repeated reverse engineering of the blue version.

or

Deep Purple = Legendary (super-duper rare).

or BOTH.

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Coldin
10.18.2012 , 11:58 AM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
And they give you everything for free without the need to ever spend any money?
No. But they have fewer/better restrictions, and actually encourage me to spend money.

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Urael
10.18.2012 , 12:01 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by Coldin View Post
No. But they have fewer/better restrictions, and actually encourage me to spend money.
Have you spent up to or more than $180 in a years time?

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Galbatorrix
10.18.2012 , 12:04 PM | #369
Quote: Originally Posted by Coldin View Post
No. But they have fewer/better restrictions, and actually encourage me to spend money.
I've played most F2P games and I completely disagree. Most of those games couldn't keep me interested long enough to want to spend money. SWTOR is giving away the class story lines. That's a way better incentive to play this game over a game like LOTRO, IMO.

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Eillack
10.18.2012 , 12:05 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I think it's arguable, but I would say market conditions at least contributed to the losses, and I think any fair assessment would agree with that sentiment.

To what degree I can not say. But telling people not to play if they cant afford 15 bucks...well...isnt that counter to what they are trying to accomplish here?

Again, in my opinion it's pure arrogance. Its almost an expectation that 15 bucks is very little money, when the game wants and needs players. Is it really that difficult to grasp that not everyone has 15 bucks to burn each month and want the best value for their money?

Looking at life through a paper tube isn't productive.
$15 is the flat standard; pretty much asking a company, industry, etc to change a price because X people don't have as much as before. Not trying to be a d@$! but that is just selfish.

It's like walking into a Best Buy (or any store, etc) and asking someone if you specifically can get a lower price on a new TV because you haven't had the greatest year, while those who have had decent enough years could afford the cost.