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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

DarthRaika's Avatar

11.06.2012 , 11:43 PM | #441
Well Saj sometimes they would be in pug matches and sometimes they would be with another premade (against a premade though). In either case the match is closer to even overall and I don't see how they would be hurt. Also, if they are very casual and have crap gear that would be taken into consideration later when the matching system was improved.

Muramxx's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 01:02 AM | #442
If you all actively like 2 shotting n00bs in pvp with your high end gear all day and find that fullfills your lifes desires why don't you re-roll on a pvp server, that's why they are there right.... for pvp....

Doomsdaycomes's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 01:26 AM | #443
Quote: Originally Posted by Muramxx View Post
If you all actively like 2 shotting n00bs in pvp with your high end gear all day and find that fullfills your lifes desires why don't you re-roll on a pvp server, that's why they are there right.... for pvp....
<.< actually, PvP servers are for those who enjoy unrestricted Open World PvP, but that's another animal entirely. It's really a bad label. Personally I choose rp or PvE because I wouldn't attack someone minding their business doing dailies, and I expect the same from others. PvE/RP server are what provides that.

That being said, to Wanzker or whatever his name was, everything you said has been said already, but sadly everytime someone enters into the conversation and combines advice with insults, what was a fruitful conversation turns back into mudslinging. >.> We're all aware the election is over?

filipesantana's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 02:33 AM | #444
why is this still going on......srsly...

there isnt a single good xcuse to WANT to solo queue..NONE!

the only viable one is "i dont have enough time during the week to play and im only on 30 mins at a time", well tuff luck buddy, your schedule doesnt allow you to fully enjoy a mmo, btu the game wont adpt to you.

every other xcuse is just BS from awkward freaks that manage to transfer their lack of irl social skills to online games..which is appalling by itself..

MAKE YOUR OWN PREMADE OR JOIN ONE!!! both options take no longer then 10-15 mins worst case scenario.
(if you are bad and people dont invite you or kick you from premades..then the problem is in you chalenged brain and you should go play something more simple)

its an mmo your suppose to interact with people, if you cant or don't want to then you just a freak and oxygen is being wasted by you...move on to single player games.

tired of this freak show...its 4 man premades hard can it be to invite 3 people and not be a complete social retard that cant communicate?

(ye my english and grammar....sorry not my 1st language)

LenrocNewDawn's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 02:49 AM | #445
I like winning but I'm not very upset if I'm losing provided that I get to fight and maybe learn a trick or two. I'll talk about my experience and will not pretend I know what ever all others experience. I've spent 10 + months on this game my main char is short only 2 pieces WH gear (chest and head), I also have 3 more lvl 50s. I'm fully augmented and almost 20K HP on that slinger. I win more then I lose by a good margin and I do pre-mades as well as solo queues and generally enjoy the PvP in this game.
You know what pisses me off the most? Not losing a game, not the pre-mades, not the CC/resolve conundrum, not the FOTM classes, not the gear disparity (got my battle master suit prior of 1.2 for those of you that knows what that means) cause most of the time I can deal with those "issues", but being ROFL stomped because the match making system have placed me in an impossible position really really really gets me upset (understatement). Can't have any more ROFL stomping crap after spending 10 months in the game (told you, this is just about me ). I don't even want to phantom how a fresh fifty must feel these days.
On my server, The Red Eclipse, the population is large enough to support a better matchmaking system and I'm sure that if the matches will be better balanced more and more people will come in for the fun.
Since filipesantana posted while I was writing my post I just want to say: " filipe, F-, your English is not your biggest problem, sit down" .
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iDraxter's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 03:24 AM | #446
I agree with zhaker ppl would like to win with little to no effort, hiding behind the word casual. Nobody is stoping you to queue with friends, nobody but urself and premade of 2-4 ppl is not a sure win only if u let them

Darth-Rammstein's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 03:37 AM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by Theodulus View Post
Why can't BW just allow us to queue a 8-man ops in NWZ? That will make the bad solo queuers get back to their care bear PvE game. PvP will be glorious without all the bads.
It will also be empty, I think you underestimate how many people solo queue....bioware could say good bye to a ton of subscribers that would quit as a result of it.
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AnteJeebuz's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 04:32 AM | #448
The reason to solo que:

'Cause I can play my classes?
I dont need a premade to win?
Coordination goes a long way if you just talk.

The reason to not solo que:
You have other people in guild/friends who are pvping (always more fun to BS while PVPing)
It is an MMO. Designed to play as a group.
Cause you suck and that is all you will que as.

You cannot win at a game if you aren't constantly trying to make yourself better. There are hacks and there are OP'd classes.The amount of players hacking is few and far between. Though it is out there and always will be out there. They will make new hacks when they get caught. There will be premades cause people just dont like grouping alone. Prime example is there are people on ToFN that only do premades at night cause that is the only way they win. They do a double que in NWZ and wait for the same que pop. By themselves they suck, they cant do anything outside of 2 Focus Target attacking smashmonkeys with operative healer and DPS Sorc.

So, there are tons of reasons to que solo and not que solo. Different styles of play for different people. Though, I did nothing but que solo over this weekend except for probably 3-4 matches. I had no problem getting top damage on my gunslinger, over 140k protection on my vanguard and juggernaut and 200k-350k healing on my Operative and sage. I know those aren't impressive. I have seen much higher, but for solo quing without comms I was happy with my 352k on my sage =3. So, what I am saying is: If you cant solo que cause you get facestomped, take each fight you have as a learning objective for your class. Figure out what you could have done to make that fight better and evolve off it with your characters. =)

AnteJeebuz's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 04:36 AM | #449
Let me actually define "Over powered" In my perspective. There are classes that do more damage then others, and there are classes designed to do more damage then others. However, all are pretty close at the moment. But some are MUCH easier to play then others to achieve that damage.

Karkais's Avatar

11.07.2012 , 04:41 AM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
No, complaining about teams in an online, multi-player, team based game is really stupid. I would hope you know that.
So complaining about teams is stupid, soloqueueing is not. Gotcha.
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