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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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cub-lover
11.02.2012 , 06:55 AM | #291
i do a mix of premades and pugging, though i will pug more than premade. and i can tell isntantly wich is a premade an wich is a pug. within the first few minutes of the game.

but hte main problem with bads is you give solid advice, or beneficial adivce to that bad's class, and all you eitherg et is abuse or a lot of nerd rage.

or even when you say soemthign simple like please can every oen call incs early, and not after you die.

though my favoret lack of team spirit is when you suggest to go for both side turrets, and peopel agree, yet half the team goes straight for mid leaving 2-3 people that follow the plan discussed before the game started

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TonyDragonflame
11.02.2012 , 09:32 AM | #292
There is no fun playing in pug against high-ranked guild premade on regular WZ, and I leave these wz's immediately as far as I see it.
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Theodulus
11.02.2012 , 09:59 AM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by Doomsdaycomes View Post
Try that again pal.

8 people is no problem. We can form that for about 6 hours every evening. Problem comes into find 16 people, since even when we're queue'd there isn't a ranked WZ pop. Don't try and tell me I can't do my part, when peeps here are asking that they not even have to find 4 for their easy wins.
PvE people has to find 16 people to do the endgame content so can you. So exactly what is the problem? Is there a magical 8 friend limit in MMOs? Don't come here claiming the queue is bugged for your rwz trading farm. If it certainly was bugged then you should /bug it. I've not seen any other post on this PvP forum claiming the RWZ queue doesn't work.
Quote: Originally Posted by Doomsdaycomes View Post
Pfft. As I said before, and people wonder why America's going down the dumps. We're less and less competitive, less self improving. Instead of raising the masses up to the exceptional level, we lowered the exceptional level down to the masses, then told them they're all special and unique and don't listen when someone tells them that they in fact... suck.
This is offtopic and I don't see how it connects with playing a game on your free time. If I wanted to play competitive professional sports I would not chose a video game with focus on light-sabers. I also don't live on the American continent so I can't tell why USA has been in a moral and economical decline for at least the past 30 years. Other countries' internal politics doesn't interest me. Instead of complaining how about you put in some effort to fix the current situation in your country? Playing a commercial MMO and preaching on its game forum hardly counts as doing something to fix it. If you don't like the situation and don't see a way out you can always move to another country with similar views as your own. I did that for a few years for work and it was a good decision.

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HuaRya
11.02.2012 , 11:45 AM | #294
Since this is THE MOST important thread in this section as it effects PVP as it currently is I'm going to continue to contribute.


This game should have a separate group and solo queue.

1. Group PVP - Consisting of Groups of 2 or more

2. Solo PVP - Individual players only





The trolls on this thread are AFRAID this Rational FIX would ever occur as it would be the end of them collecting medals with their buddies in mostly non-ranked PVP. The truly messed up thing is that most of these kids are already MAX'ed out with WH and Augs. The only thing they are doing is preventing newcomers to lvl 50 pvp from ever attaining WH gear. But they know they are doing that.

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UGLYMRJ
11.02.2012 , 11:47 AM | #295
Quote: Originally Posted by HuaRya View Post
Since this is THE MOST important thread in this section as it effects PVP as it currently is I'm going to continue to contribute.


This game should have a separate group and solo queue.

1. Group PVP - Consisting of Groups of 2 or more

2. Solo PVP - Individual players only





The trolls on this thread are AFRAID this Rational FIX would ever occur as it would be the end of them collecting medals with their buddies in mostly non-ranked PVP. The truly messed up thing is that most of these kids are already MAX'ed out with WH and Augs. The only thing they are doing is preventing newcomers to lvl 50 pvp from ever attaining WH gear. But they know they are doing that.
It's not that we're against the idea entirely. Options are good. We don't want to suffer longer queue times because you refuse to play the game as it's intended.

It's a team based, social, massively multi-player online game.

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cycao
11.02.2012 , 11:58 AM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by HuaRya View Post
Since this is THE MOST important thread in this section as it effects PVP as it currently is I'm going to continue to contribute.


This game should have a separate group and solo queue.

1. Group PVP - Consisting of Groups of 2 or more

2. Solo PVP - Individual players only





The trolls on this thread are AFRAID this Rational FIX would ever occur as it would be the end of them collecting medals with their buddies in mostly non-ranked PVP. The truly messed up thing is that most of these kids are already MAX'ed out with WH and Augs. The only thing they are doing is preventing newcomers to lvl 50 pvp from ever attaining WH gear. But they know they are doing that.
I would be all for this if they had cross server queues, which they don't and from what I know will not be in the future.

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Theodulus
11.02.2012 , 12:01 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
It's a team based, social, massively multi-player online game.
Yes but most PvPers only seem to be capable of making 4 friends though and do NWZ. They just aren't social enough to do the real endgame PvP where they can better themselves as a team.

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Theodulus
11.02.2012 , 12:04 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao View Post
I would be all for this if they had cross server queues, which they don't and from what I know will not be in the future.
The state this game is in now I doubt cross server queues will help much at all. Level 50 PvP will suffer a slow but certain death due to population issues and non-existing matching algorithms.

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Kalfear
11.02.2012 , 02:24 PM | #299
Quote: Originally Posted by Theodulus View Post
The state this game is in now I doubt cross server queues will help much at all. Level 50 PvP will suffer a slow but certain death due to population issues and non-existing matching algorithms.
kinda gotta agree

this fix was needed BEFORE this issue became a glaring issues that was out of control (like it is now)

Yesterday I did 10 WZs, 6 as my Commando and 4 as my sage healer

Now I could hurt and effect my opponentes and came in over 200k damage in 5 wzs and 300 k in 1.
No one else on my teams had more then 100 k damage in any match because of gear and us facing non stop pre mades.
Im pretty sure at least 4 of those new to pvp players will cancel in near future based on the demoralizing outcomes where try as they might they could not affect the outcome in any fashion. Based on what they were saying.

As my sage it was moronic, the first WZ myself and a guild commando healer I was playing with actually helped win a game by cross healing at south in denova. But after that in next 3 warzones neither of us were allowed to even make it to a node.

Oh im sure some out there will congradulate each other for smart playing but fact of matter is its not a tactic PUGs can (or will appearently) fight against so teams just gave up. Pre made unbalanced voice communication to create a level of organization was to much for the pug to over come.

As for this BS nonsesnse of "oh our ques will be longer if they go pug vrs pug and pre made vrs pre made" BULL PUCKY, thats just a BS excuse by someone that refuses already to play ranked against people on same gear/organization level.

BOTH Republic and Imp sides are sick and tired of being roilled by the low class pre mades that cant hack it in ranked. So if there is pre mades rolling pugs on both sides at same time, there is no more extended que times if the pre mades got put against the pre mades. They already there at same time, just game refuses to pit pre made vrs pre made as the TRUE BADS (the premades that roll pugs as to cowardly to go ranked) as they would cry to high hell about not being able to grief those just learning.

As I said, I doubt anything gets done now and if it does I doubt it solves issue as this fix needed to be in BEFORE this issue hit this level of severity.

Once again EA is months behind the curve and ultimately to slow to act and respond when the issue in its infant stages.
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Brool
11.02.2012 , 02:30 PM | #300
I find it funny how people say they get matched up against premades all day every day, I solo queue only and find that I get matched up against a premade group maybe 25% of the time or less.

Quit exaggerating the numbers.
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