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Why do people hate the new trilogy?

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Why do people hate the new trilogy?

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khayyinx
10.13.2012 , 11:44 AM | #1
Ok, i know that there's some things that wasn't very nice in the new trilogy, like how the event were forced in the end of the ROTS (the way padme die, ***?), but they still are Star Wars movies and have a LOT of cool things.
As a SW fan, i really like all the lightsaber fights (which we don't see in the old trilogy) and force powes. Also the story is still really cool.

Adding all the effects i would say that the new trilogy is as good as the old ones, if not better, for the people who likes to see more action and grandiosity...

So, i would like to know your opinion on that matter. PLEASE, don't just say that one movie just suck. Post your opinion and arguments about all the movies.

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JustARandomGuy
10.13.2012 , 11:57 AM | #2
ANH was the first film I saw in the cinema. It's kinda hard to compare the wow factor then than it is now. ANH was released in the same year (I think) as 'Logan's Run'. The difference between the two is incredible even now, never mind when you saw TIE-Fighters against X-Wings for the first time.
And who can forget the first time they heard the words 'Luke, I am your father...'? Followed up by the Battle of Endor a few years after? The first time you saw Speeder Bikes? (and selective memory is making me forget the Ewoks...)

I can't think of a single instance in the new trilogy that made my jaw drop the way the original trilogy did.

I don't mind the new trilogy per say, but it's not the best acting, nor the best script... Seems to be held together with CGI glue..
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Wolfninjajedi
10.13.2012 , 12:33 PM | #3
Because lots of people don't look deeper into it, they only see the 1st layer and judge it from that. If you look at it from a different point of view, when Anakin shows up and you watch him throughout each movie and study it. Then his fall, and all that, the characters, will make more sense....as for Padme dying from a broken heart, that is an actual thing that can happen its just very rare for someone to die because of it.

More to that when the PT came out, movies were judged on a different level then they were back when the OT was released. I mean movies now a days, rely pretty much on opening night to get the money and good reviews in if it doesn't do well they just scrap it all together.
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Gidrea
10.13.2012 , 01:06 PM | #4
I enjoyed the PT for the most part, but there were a couple of things that bothered me, and one MAJOR disappointment.

I love Jedi, and seeing them in action was awesome! CGI doesn't bother me, it looks real to me. The script writing could have been better. They could have spent less time on pod racing.

The major disappointment was Anakin. I had always pictured Anakin as epically heroic person who was "seduced by the dark side of the Force," as Obi-Wan said, and suffered a tragic fall into madness.

Instead, we got a whiny teenager. And not just a "the other Jedi don't like me" type of whiner, but one that had to run to his enabling wife, who placated him like he was five.

I expected to see a real man, someone I could mourn when he fell to the dark side, not a brat that I would have happily kicked into the lava myself.

The whole story of his fall was not well done, but if you read the novelization of "Revenge of the Sith," there's a lot more detail that fleshes out that story line and gives it a little more substance.

Padme's death was ludicrous, a woman that strong would never just give up and die because he juvenile husband didn't love her anymore, especially with two newborn babies to take care of. I have friends who post her picture on Facebook every year on mother's days, and it just makes me want to scream, "WTH kind of example of motherhood is that supposed to be?"

Obi-Wan, on the other hand, was everything I thought a Jedi should be, so that made up for a lot.

So, I don't hate them, I've seen them all several times, and I consider them part of the saga.
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simplius
10.13.2012 , 01:15 PM | #5
but the originals had lots of bad acting too

i think the primary reason, is , that the originals were made as "artwork",,lucas and co

doing , what they did best, without too much interference

phantom menace was clearly low budget, compared to the others

i think the other two had too many loose ends to tie up in too little screen time

and too many analysts/focusgroups putting in a word too

but still,,i enjoy the new ones too,,but not as much as EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

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AlyxDinas
10.13.2012 , 01:24 PM | #6
I only particularly hate Attack of the Clones. It's got a lot of pacing problems, is sort of indecisive about what it wants to do, and really handles the Anakin character poorly.

Revenge does a considerably better job and would have done even better if certain parts of the original draft weren't cut (which is why everyone should read the Stover novelization; Lucas page edited that and Stover's an amazing writer so the end result is much closer that what even the screen was meant to bring across). It only stumbles in a few places, particularly fleshing out some of Anakin's frustrations with the Jedi.

As for Phantom Menace, it's aged much better than some people thing and people do detract it basically just parrot RLM's videos about it without giving substantive critique of their own. It's maligned because there was no way it would meet the expectations of fans to begin with and dismissed because a lot of people don't bother. They say "Midichlorian!" as if it means what they think it does (ie. turning the Force into a science), which it does not. If any film really deserves the benefit of re-examination, that's the one.
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mcrmorgan
10.13.2012 , 01:41 PM | #7
My personal opinion on the matter is that most of the love of the original trilogy is nostalgia, a decent number remember the moments they think are epic but gradual forget the mediocre moments . With the prequels I do agree that it seems like they tried to force a lot of the story into a short space of time.

I really liked the prequels, it gave the impression of really epic battles that the original trilogy lacked significantly in my opinion. I have no real preference between the 2 trilogies.
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chuixupu
10.13.2012 , 01:46 PM | #8
I highly recommend watching the documentary "The People v. George Lucas". I think it highlights very well the feelings between the fans and the creator, for good and for bad. Especially regarding fan's feelings on the prequels. It's on Netflix.
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Xatasha
10.13.2012 , 03:43 PM | #9
When star wars 1st came out, no one had any information on the star wars universe. Everything was new and fresh and you were surprised by the plot twists.

The new trilogy had 30 years of star wars to deal with and everyone knew what was going to happen so it wasn't new or fresh.

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abimailkarosian
10.13.2012 , 04:18 PM | #10
What people are referring to?
I love the new trilogy.

I just finished watching all the movies from Phantom to the 6th one in 3 nights.
The new trilogy is really beautifully made, a joy for the eyes, and the story is told nicely.
People will always find something to complain about, but those are secon-handers. I do not deal with such characters.