lock box debate

If the child is too young I'd monitor the games they play. If the child was old enough to know what they are doing I'd punish them. Same as if they started smoking, or drinking.
My point is, is that there are things in life that can tempt anyone, we see it everywhere. But you can't stop people enjoying them because someone somewhere has an addictive personality. Lockboxes make money. People want the shineys inside and are willing to pay. It's gonna happewn. People will have to get used to it, or ignore them, or stop playing. That's the reality.

prevention is why we have laws to govern minimum age. and "what they are doing" has been reshaped, painted and given a new name, so maybe they don't know wht they are doing. kinda like someone developing a addiction?

noone is on about stopping, what people are saying is we have minimum age laws for a reason. and that reason isn't because we want to stop people having fun or because we just don't like it so you can't play it too. the reason is because younger minds are more open to addiction, and addiction not only effects the user but the others around the user and society in general.

I'm not against protecting the young. But what would you suggest? Upping the age limit? That won't work, unless parents control their kids, and not let them play whatever they like. What can be done to stop someone buying a lockbox if there is no one in the home willing to monitor?

Wow... this really is a debate. But I think I'm missing something here.... because I really don't see why this a big deal at all.

First and foremost. I don't care what F2P'ers do with their money. They can buy cartel coins, keys to lock boxes, etc. doesn't matter to me. It's their money and their choice.

As a long standing sub who plans to continue I will have a wealth of cartel coins as well as a monthly stipend to spend as I see fit. And that is the important thing. I will have an income of Cartel coins for being a sub which I can spend on whatever I want including but not limited to a lock box key (assuming they are in the game). I will not feel the lesser because I have to use Cartel coins. It is totally my choice. I can hoard my income to get something shiny or I can take my chances. Either way, it is up to me... and I will still have an income in Cartel coins for being a sub as well as unfettered or restricted access. No issues here.

The amount you get, won't be worth much, trust me. EA = Wants your money.

a important thing i want to mention on this.

When you buy a set of cards, you buy a set of cards, yes the face value of the cards are random but your getting a set of cards none the less.

A lockbox is random, you have no idea what is in the box it could be a nice shiny item you WANT or a med pack that you Don't,

if i had 1 box with a car key in it and a 2nd with a lemon and i charged people money to take the chance and pick a box i would be breaking the law by not having the correct licence.
money is only allowed on games of skill according to UK law, ( 2 people can play for money in a game of darts for example but for someone outside the game it would not be allowed and would require a licence)
anything that involves "chance" or 3rd party is gambling.

i think thats all the ways i'm able to describe gambling..lol

Typical "I'm alright jack stuff the rest".........clearly needs to grow up and smell what hes shovelin, is a reply to a post of mine on page 7. I know it's a lot to do, and you may have to do more reading, but try to keep up with what you're replying to in future, ok?
Players will not be forced to spend a penny on these boxes. You saying they will, that there will be pay to win stuff in them, is going against what the devs have said. You are the one who needs to go do some reading, not I.

you OBVIOUSLY did not read MY posts well enough, I commented on the fact STO devs said the exact same thing, lo and behold a little while later, complete u turn.......Also I made these posts in relation to the pay2win scenario, get a grip mate, dont get the hump because you have been proven wrong, suck it up.....

Ummm I don't know what to say. I'm not going to quote my post and your reply because clearly you have no idea what you've been replying to lol. You could go to page 7 and read it again if you like.
I can't see the point in carrying on this debate with you really. Firstly you say that swtor will have lockboxes with pay to win items in them, which isn't the case. Then you reply to a post I made concerning people's addiction problems, and then said you were talking about sto, which I didn't mention in that post. Bewildering:/ and now you say I've been proven wrong, when you're the one making stuff up about what's going in lockboxes lol.

You know if the Lockboxes have Unique Skins you cannot get anywhere else then Its a Scam and BW should suffer for being scam artisits...If they are Skins that have a specific color scheme...I can live with that.

Basically If they blew resources on making gear for these boxes that are unique and More specifically the "Star Warsy" gear everyone has been asking for...and now you have to buy boxes to get it, after so many people hanging tough with this game after their poor execution and performance thus far...Its jut stright Money grubbing greedy customer gouging Crap that I wont support.

If they want to put some Different color schemes on gear you can get elsewhere..then fine. With the Horrid gear in the game now...and the lack of turning over anything new in quite some time I have a bad feeling the F2P Store is going to have all that time and resources on gear development on display with a price tag next to it...Meanwhile we have been paying for them to do it and got nothing but poorly tested buggy content releases, and really poorly chosen Class blance changes.......BW you have been warned!