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YoshiRaphElan
10.12.2012 , 11:14 AM | #1
I just made a character to Level 50, and I wasn't intending on doing any Ops, just Dailies and Normal-mode Flashpoints. Unfortunately I found out that to get our "new companion" in 1.5 we will have to do HM Maelstrom Prison/Foundry to get part of him. Therefore I did a little research and found out that apparently it's not a good idea to do HM FP's without Op gear - i.e. Columi/Tionese/Rakata. Therefore I will, unfortunately, have to go against my initial hopes and do ops. So here are several questions.

1. As to gearing, for my first op would Black Hole gear be acceptable?
2. Relating to the question above, you get BH commendations from doing Dailies, right? (I'm just finishing Corellia)
3. What is the shortest and/or easiest Op? (I've heard Eternity Vault)
4. How many Ops would I have to do to get a full set of gear?
5. Can I get the gear in Story Mode or must I do HM Ops?
6. How long is the shortest Op?

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OmenQ
10.12.2012 , 11:19 AM | #2
Hard Mode Foundry is one of the easier HM Flashpoints. Best way to get geared for it is daily comms. You can get armorings and hilts / barrels that are rank 23 for 8 comms each.

If you have those, Black Talon, Boarding Party, and Foundry are pretty easy to complete. There's no need to run Ops to do those. In fact, I did EVERY HM Flashpoint on one character before doing my first Operation.

Just don't try to do Lost Island until you've got some gear and a good group. That one's a pain in the rear.
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TylerTrojan
10.12.2012 , 11:21 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by YoshiRaphElan View Post
I just made a character to Level 50, and I wasn't intending on doing any Ops, just Dailies and Normal-mode Flashpoints. Unfortunately I found out that to get our "new companion" in 1.5 we will have to do HM Maelstrom Prison/Foundry to get part of him. Therefore I did a little research and found out that apparently it's not a good idea to do HM FP's without Op gear - i.e. Columi/Tionese/Rakata. Therefore I will, unfortunately, have to go against my initial hopes and do ops. So here are several questions.

1. As to gearing, for my first op would Black Hole gear be acceptable?
2. Relating to the question above, you get BH commendations from doing Dailies, right? (I'm just finishing Corellia)
3. What is the shortest and/or easiest Op? (I've heard Eternity Vault)
4. How many Ops would I have to do to get a full set of gear?
5. Can I get the gear in Story Mode or must I do HM Ops?
6. How long is the shortest Op?
I'll try to clear up a few things
The gear progression is Tionese -> Columi -> Rakata -> Campaign -> Dread Guard. Black Hole is the equivalent of Campaign, but without the set bonus. In order to do HM MP, you honestly could probably use mostly recruit or battlemaster (PVP) gear, although a few columi pieces would help. You get columi either from doing HM FPs or doing story mode Ops (EV and KP). Personally, I'd try to do a SM EV run - with a good group it shouldn't take more than an hour, and if you're geared in recruit, it should be fine as long as you know how to play, stay out of fire, etc. That should get you a couple columi pieces. Once you get columi, if you want to get some Rakata, I'd do HM EV and KP, although you definitely do NOT need Rakata to do HM MP.

If you get a BH piece or two from comms, you'd be more than set - you get BH comms from HM EC (but that requires rakata gear to start), black hole dailies (8/wk), and the group finder ops/HM FPs (both of which you could do with recruit/battlemaster, except Lost Island).

Hope that helps!

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Memo-
10.12.2012 , 11:22 AM | #4
Get the recruit set from the pvp-terminal and you're set for every HM Flashpoint except Lost Island. Operations come after Flashpoints in gear progression, so to need full Columi for The Foundry would be backwards and stupid. :P
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YoshiRaphElan
10.12.2012 , 11:29 AM | #5
Okay, thanks for a bit of clearance there.

First off: So by doing Dailies I get commendations which I can use to buy mods that will be sufficient for HM Foundry. Cool. Second: I have not done PVP my whole character () so Recruit gear isn't much of an option. Third: So I'm getting the vibe that ops aren't really necessary in order to do HM Foundry. Sweet. So I should be able to get HK-51 wearing orange gear with Daily mods. Did I get all that right?

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_Muninn
10.12.2012 , 11:35 AM | #6
Recruit gear is given out for free , just go to the pvp terminal and you should get the mission.

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Khevar
10.12.2012 , 11:38 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by YoshiRaphElan View Post
Okay, thanks for a bit of clearance there.

First off: So by doing Dailies I get commendations which I can use to buy mods that will be sufficient for HM Foundry. Cool. Second: I have not done PVP my whole character () so Recruit gear isn't much of an option. Third: So I'm getting the vibe that ops aren't really necessary in order to do HM Foundry. Sweet. So I should be able to get HK-51 wearing orange gear with Daily mods. Did I get all that right?
The Recruit gear is free, actually. If you go to the PvP terminal in the fleet that offers PvP quests, one of them is a technology related quest (don't remember the exact name). You pick up the quest, then turn it in right away and you can get a set of gear for your spec.

You can definitely do the Foundry wearing orange gear with daily mods. The nice thing about the Recruit gear is that some of the pieces in the set may be upgrades so some of the gear your wearing. I would get it anyway and then swap out any slot with a recruit piece that would be an upgrade.

If you haven't done much 4-man content, I would offer these tips (just in case you don't already know)

1. Some of the mobs have multiple elites in them. It can help to stun (CC) some of these before the fight. Be careful not to attack CCed mobs either directly or with area attacks or it will break the CC.
2. DPS generally kill the weaker mobs first -- this helps reduce the overall damage the group is taking.
3. Most of the boss fights have some specific mechanics to be aware of. For example, Revan casts an ability called "Power of the Force" which needs be interrupted.

Cheers.

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YoshiRaphElan
10.12.2012 , 11:49 AM | #8
Thanks. Yeah, I've done a few FPs - many times Esseles and BT, a few times Hammer Station, and Athiss once or twice, Mandalorian Raiders twice, and Maelstrom Prison once. Plus all Act 1 Heroics up to Alderaan. But thanks for the tip about Revan - that'll be useful.

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OmenQ
10.12.2012 , 12:00 PM | #9
I usually take the token that's worth 320k and then go buy any recruit pieces that are an upgrade. This usually ends up being just the relics, usually the earpiece, sometimes an offhand and occasionally an implant.
PvP recruit vendor sells stuff for cash, so no need to PvP to get the stuff.
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Khevar
10.12.2012 , 12:18 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by OmenQ View Post
I usually take the token that's worth 320k and then go buy any recruit pieces that are an upgrade. This usually ends up being just the relics, usually the earpiece, sometimes an offhand and occasionally an implant.
PvP recruit vendor sells stuff for cash, so no need to PvP to get the stuff.
An unfortunate change as of 1.4 is the the PvP token can no longer be redeemed for money. You can only get the gear.