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First Bad Experience With Flashpoints


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DocZoloft
10.12.2012 , 10:37 AM | #11
Yeah, group finder can be really hit-or-miss sometimes. Just keep at it, and be glad that if you have someone on ignore that you never have to group with them again! For those who kick people for accidentally aggroing mobs, shame on them! We've all done it, and we've all been beginners, too.
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Creslan
10.12.2012 , 11:14 PM | #12
Pretty common occurence and it will only get worse with Free-to-play. WOW people are rude and they've brought their rudeness here, it spreads like cancer. They are impatient, rude, condescending, petty, and vulgar. They will go out of their way to trash you as a player and a person, as well as, vote kick for frivolous reasons. Sadly, this is a growing trend in MMO's. MMO community now compaired to MMO community 10 years ago are so polarized its mind boggling, yet that one title "WoW" seems to be at the core of the growing problem. Nothing you can do about it either, except go play a single player game.

General chat on my server is full of bacon spouting, jawa movie title yelling, talking about getting high or drinking til they puke. Cursing is the norm and if you ask them to tone it down, they get their friends and spam you with tells or spout off even more in general.

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Iron-wolf
10.13.2012 , 12:22 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Webalienz View Post
Let me first state that I am admittedly a solo-playing person. I'm new to MMOs, and even though I have two characters up to lvl 50, I still feel like I'm learning how to play properly (i.e. - Holding my own and not making anyone that I'm grouped up with upset with me.)

I decided to start leveraging the group finder (primarily because the guild I'm in is not that big, yet, and there haven't been many people online to group up with). I did two Flashpoints (one was HM: BT and I believe the other one was HM: False Emperor) previously and started them both out by saying, "Hey, I'm a new 50, and new to MMO in general. Please let me know if any mechanics I should know about."

I picked up right away in both, that most people just want to ride their speeders around mobs and only interact with bosses. While I've noticed that the drops weren't as many when we did have to fight a mob, I have found this kind of weird since you miss out on possible random premium loot drops. But, I'll go along with what the group wants to do.

Anyways, I get pulled into Directive 7 with a group. They seemed to know where to go on their speeders to get around the mobs. It seemed the path to take was a lot trickier than other Flashpoints. So I ended up falling 2-3 times into a mob. After the third time, one of the group member types "gdit i hate you". I decide to say nothing. Next thing that happens is I get voted out of the group.

So is this kind of behavior commonplace or did I just run into a bad group? I'd also be happy for any suggestions/comments on how I could even make it clearer to folks that I'm still getting the hang of the game. I think I'm just going to try to get some more people in the guild I'm in and hope to find 3 or more folks who are on in the evenings to run Flashpoints and Daily Heroics with me.
I know what your're going through. I had a bad experience the other morning. I was doing one of the random quest through group finder. Don't remember the mission. It's the one where you go through some sort of theater. Two of us said at the begining that we never did the quest. Anyway the other guy ran into a mob and the group wiped out. One of he jerks said if you pull again I'm leaving. Second time there was a part in the mission that required someone to man the cannon. They told one of us to man the cannon. I didn't know how to operate it. We wiped again (that was my fault). The two jerks were like, this ain't happening and then rage quit from the group. I sent a whisper to one of them and pretty much told them at least most of the other players I played with was kind enough to explain things out instead of barking out orders and rage quitting. After that i put both those clowns in my ignore list. This is one of the main reasons why I pretty much play solo and avoid joining any guilds. Don't have the patience anymore to deal with some brain damaged moron.

Anyway good luck in setting up a good guild. I hope everything works out for the best for you.

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Oggthebase
10.13.2012 , 01:05 AM | #14
unfortunately you've encountered people who probably have been bred by wow. No respect for the others, just "me me me" and they only want to finish the flashpoint the fastest so they can run the grind to death.

the good news is that contrary to wow, people cannot rename their characters and everyone share the same server. Therefore acting like a ***** repeatedly will slowly catch up to them, they'll be put on more and more "ignore" lists and be isolated.

I personally like to run my flashpoints quickly, but always slow down to explain the fights and the shortcuts to people who are new. If I see them make mistake I ask whether they know the flashpoint and want a short briefing.

I've encountered my share of bad and selfish behaviours, but I've also met very nice people. So don't be discouraged!

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MishraArtificer
10.13.2012 , 01:55 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Iron-wolf View Post
I know what your're going through. I had a bad experience the other morning. I was doing one of the random quest through group finder. Don't remember the mission. It's the one where you go through some sort of theater. Two of us said at the begining that we never did the quest. Anyway the other guy ran into a mob and the group wiped out. One of he jerks said if you pull again I'm leaving. Second time there was a part in the mission that required someone to man the cannon. They told one of us to man the cannon. I didn't know how to operate it. We wiped again (that was my fault). The two jerks were like, this ain't happening and then rage quit from the group. I sent a whisper to one of them and pretty much told them at least most of the other players I played with was kind enough to explain things out instead of barking out orders and rage quitting. After that i put both those clowns in my ignore list. This is one of the main reasons why I pretty much play solo and avoid joining any guilds. Don't have the patience anymore to deal with some brain damaged moron.

Anyway good luck in setting up a good guild. I hope everything works out for the best for you.
Hm...looks like I'm not the only one who had that problem with KAON UNDER SIEGE...

OP, what server are you on? If you're on Jedi Covenant, I'd love to join up with you when I do my random Hard Mode Flashpoints. I'm a tank, so you get the bonus of a STUPID FAST Group Finder queue in addition to someone who knows most of the Flashpoints already. (There are exceptions: I've STILL never done Lost Island, for example...)
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NasherUK
10.13.2012 , 08:54 AM | #16
Most people running level 50 flashpoints have done them many times before so want to skip the story and trash etc. Though if you say you want to do it all people usually dont mind. On my server (the progenator) I rarely get problems with people.

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XaporKux
10.14.2012 , 04:25 AM | #17
I made a lot of mistakes, also caused some good wipes along the way. You do learn by your mistakes and before long you won't be a fresh 50, and you'll be giving the same advice to some other new 50.

I'd put it down to a bad PUG. Keep grinding those HM's and you'll be fine. Once you start getting the gear you need I think you'll be the one wanting to skip through, trust me.
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Radzkie
10.14.2012 , 05:47 AM | #18
Whenever I end up in a PUG with fresh 50s, I try to explain things to them as clearly as I can. I also offer to do all the bosses so that they can gear up.

I wouldn't kick anyone for aggroing by mistake. I've done all the Flash Points 2898734893874287934872387948712387712838791289 times and I still aggro once in awhile. It happens to all of us. People don't pay attention, lag spikes, etc.

However, as someone who has been a lv 50 for a very, very, long time, I will be honest and admit that some fresh 50s can be frustrating to deal with. I have the biggest issue with the ones who have absolutely no clue how to play their class. Among the worst is those who spec DPS, then que as a tank. This is all on top of the fact that they have crap gear...

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Sithcreep
10.14.2012 , 06:26 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Webalienz View Post
Let me first state that I am admittedly a solo-playing person. I'm new to MMOs, and even though I have two characters up to lvl 50, I still feel like I'm learning how to play properly (i.e. - Holding my own and not making anyone that I'm grouped up with upset with me.)

I decided to start leveraging the group finder (primarily because the guild I'm in is not that big, yet, and there haven't been many people online to group up with). I did two Flashpoints (one was HM: BT and I believe the other one was HM: False Emperor) previously and started them both out by saying, "Hey, I'm a new 50, and new to MMO in general. Please let me know if any mechanics I should know about."

I picked up right away in both, that most people just want to ride their speeders around mobs and only interact with bosses. While I've noticed that the drops weren't as many when we did have to fight a mob, I have found this kind of weird since you miss out on possible random premium loot drops. But, I'll go along with what the group wants to do.

Anyways, I get pulled into Directive 7 with a group. They seemed to know where to go on their speeders to get around the mobs. It seemed the path to take was a lot trickier than other Flashpoints. So I ended up falling 2-3 times into a mob. After the third time, one of the group member types "gdit i hate you". I decide to say nothing. Next thing that happens is I get voted out of the group.

So is this kind of behavior commonplace or did I just run into a bad group? I'd also be happy for any suggestions/comments on how I could even make it clearer to folks that I'm still getting the hang of the game. I think I'm just going to try to get some more people in the guild I'm in and hope to find 3 or more folks who are on in the evenings to run Flashpoints and Daily Heroics with me.
I think thats pretty common, theres a lot of totally impatient and self-righteous idiots these days. I was in a pug of some retard guild once, running LI and the dps was like ninja pulling all the friggin time, so I asked them kindly to stop that unprofessional behavior but they didnt. So at some point one of the dps got killed because he pulled too much aggro. Reaction: I got vote kicked Reason: I cant tank LOL
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joshbyrd
10.14.2012 , 06:33 AM | #20
OP, don't let a few d-bags ruin your swtor experience. we all make mistakes and sometimes there are people that instead of picking up and trying again, will act like spoiled children because things didn't go the way they planned. as much as these hardcore elitists hate to admit it, they were once new and green themselves. you will eventually run into more of this type, its inevitable. just remember that they are a minority and most players are helpful and patient. good luck and have fun