Suggestion: 16 man raiding guild (Empire side)

I've always prefered the bigger raids. In WoW, I was a member of a 25m raiding guild, and the mayhem and chaos of trying to get 25 individuals to work as a team is really as much fun as it gets for me. In SWTOR, I've only experienced 8m ops, sadly. I've been a member of 2 raiding guilds, and experience taught it was hard enough already to get 8m together to raid, 16m was completely impossible.

Recently my second raid guild died, and even though I love the game, I've given up and unsubbed. I just don't relish the thought of applying to and settling in with yet another guild, only to watch it go downhill again. I've participated in all the ops (HM) up to but not including TFB, as my guild went inactive shortly before the patch. I've consoled myself with the thought that I've seen and experienced most of the game

A proper 16m raiding guild might make me reconsider and sub again, though!

I think its funny how people say PvP server hint hint when its like 3 competitive PvP guilds around and like 10 times that amount for PvE.
A PvP server does not and never has meant that you play here to PvP, in any game.
It just means that the world has contested planets and it has nothing to do with whether you as a player prefer to PvE or PvP.

Yeah I know what you mean. Unfortunately my workload at Uni has doubled in this third year compared to last, and I had to resit some exams in summer probably due to playing too much swtor back then :P
So I can't speak for the rest of the guild, but personally I'm happy with just 3 nights a week as long as we beat everything on the highest difficulty possible before the next tier comes out. I just don't have the time or freedom to compete for world rank in the sense of logging in early on patch days and raiding 5 nights a week.

Still, it's a good idea, and if you havn't already, you should definitely approach the GMs of guilds like Saga, Hubris and Guardians. All of which have solid 8man teams (and likely like 12 raiders atleast), so even if two of the guilds were to be brought together to make a 16man, that would just about be enough

I wouldn't be part of it, but I'd still like to see it happen. There is a lack of a competitive 16man team on Imp side, and someone needs to compete with Friendly Fire for server firsts ;P Best of luck with it, look forward to seeing if anything comes of it

We do 16 man ops from time to time but we dont have enough geared people(online at the same time) for the harders ops.
We do ops very often and would like to run ops with any of you guys above.


You can contact any of us for more planning! Thx!

/ExtremeZero - Officer best served cold

Xues - GM
Devapath - ops officer

If I am not wrong, FriendlyFire is the only guild that is still raiding 16man on the Hardmode levels for progressions, join them.

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Great post and totally support the idea... hard part is to get ppl to the same "table" and discuss about the terms of merge.

And as someone pointed out, the raidtimes are an issue ofc.

*talking rubbish /on

well from my point of view the "empire guilds" should just burn .... sorry forgot this is serious...

ermm (my idea) why don't the raiding guilds just merge with a social guild of their time zone ( i am sure their is a Russian social guild who would merge with another eastern European guild... (also CDT timezone guilds somewhere on empire side on this server aswell i think i am sure they could work with the Russians on their afternoons .... (finding them is the hard part so ill leave that up to you) ... with us western Europeans ... well we can have cake plus a cup of tea more fun than raiding.... (i don't like tea just making a point) *edit ... that cdt timezone guild may have disbanded... but owell.. (empire should play republic... just saying...)

My guild is looking to join active raiding guild. We are mostly focused on PvP but enjoying PvE as well. Then why do we want PvE, someone might ask?
After out 3rd PvP guild got disbanded/merged, we gave up and joined our 4-man guild that is now doing normal warzones, only, and hardmode operations by using group finder.

Hey Guys,

Supersail here, GM of Floor Inspectors.

We rolled PVP server cause we like to have a choice. I like PVP and some of us love it, but we love clearing PVE content as well.

Currently we're in a position where we have a set group of players that join our 8 man HM raids.
Some of us have many alts and thus we've started joining Raids with other guilds often.

Guilds we raid with/lend players to often are: NC-R, Antisocial Elitists & Odissea (italian guild)
There are probably more. I know Leravulan (my first officer) has been raiding with Saga on occassion.

We are open for casual and more hardcore players. We are discussing mergers, however in my experience this can be very tricky. Also making a Guild from the best players from a few guilds seems to me not viable since it would mean a majority of Casuals would be left behind without decent leadership or support from more experienced hardcore players which would make them, eventually, leave the game I think, since they would never get to see endgame content.

I personally enjoy the game a lot every day and I think the best way to make things better is for Guilds to cooperate.
Any guilds willing to discuss 16 man raiding / Nightmare Pilgrim Runs on a weekly basis can just PM me ingame or on the forums. And we'll set it up.

My chars: Aragorias / Supersail / Sazed / Jennyfred

Regards,

Supersail