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Merc is TERRIBLE


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VLAHD
12.04.2012 , 02:36 AM | #691
Well, not going to lie, play commando in pvp is a challenge. However, its my favorite class to pvp with. In full adjusted WH gear for max power, i run between 350k-550k depending on the other side makeup. Thats not super dps compared to some other classes, but look at it this way. The nerf bat will not be coming after your 8k smashes and dispatches. Eventually, we will get some love ). You will be a better player for it.

The secret to playing this class is LoS, LoS, LoS !!!! If you stand in the open, you deserve to get owned. Cut corners, use wierd angles, jump and shoot over walls, est. Run assult spec, dot everything and their brother, tab target for squishies, then throw the sink at them...Then, move your *** private !!! Out of sight, out of mind...Hammer shots until you fingers bleed, the stronger crits with your dots running on a target add up. If your running and not hitting hammershots, rage quit and roll and new toon...Watch for you target to cure themselves...If they do, redot...If they are good at curses, find a new target and dont waste your time.

I am sure all this has already been said, im just too lazy to read it !!
Vlahd
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thamightyboro
12.04.2012 , 02:36 AM | #692
From a gunnery standpoint

IMO all we need is Cryo back to 30m not this pissy little 10 m and a damage buff.

Yes we will get facerolled off good players in good specs but it's not quite as bad as some make out I've managed to beat every class 1v1 over the last few days it's all about using the tools at our disposal correctly, stun at range with concus they WILL break it such is how bad players use stun break they will then close so get your gravs off then cryo, KB unleash hell and LOS when you can.

Not saying we are perfect far from it but we aren't as bad as some make out although we will never get to ranked level as we simply do not offer enough damage so even with a viable escape we still won't be wanted. The bigger issue for me is our damage we took an almighty nerf way back at launch when we were FOTM that was far and above what was needed in fact people just needed to L2FP and shut us down as they now do.

If we had the damage we had back then we could still be shut down but we would at least be wanted in warzones not seen as the bastard cousin that you let play games with you just so he doesn't cry to you mam.

Personally i'd rather see a buff to our damage than our mobility or some talent that stops grav being interrupted and locked down akin to hunker down for sniper/gunslinger. That's how I see a commando not some ***** that runs from the fight but someone who marches into it laying himself on the line and getting off as much carnage as possible before going down akin to the cinematics.

We actually had this in Voidstar yesterday with a 4:16 remaining run where myself and another commando held each choke point through LOS, stuns and KB allowing for non attacked plants on nearly every occasion and it was the 1st time I've felt like a commando in ages.


From a assault standpoint

make a skill high in the tier that makes charged bolts or such like instant so assault has a mobile valid railshot reset like VG does.
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DeadDogBarking
03.10.2013 , 10:09 PM | #693
My Merc got kicked from a flash point after the tank died and I was back pedaling from the boss. I was called a coward - end of game - go now. All I could do was stand there with rapid fire and die more quickly with everyone else or buy some time wait out the cool down and have less of chance of being interupted and try to pull a rabbit out of my armor.

Not everyone is the star. the merc if used in a team setting is a group multiplier. In soccer we see the Forwards and Goalies, but the halfbacks are in the middle and can tend to cover more ground. They aid both offense and defense, but get a lot less credit for scores or saves. They make both offense and defense work better. This type of organization will not happen in PUG WZ for the most part but a good repeat group should be able to use the mercs skills to the teams advantage.

As for the Merc itself,
Stay out of direct combat, but know it will come your way. If you know the end is coming go to the center of as many players as possible and create that beautifull fireworks show . Then spam BioWare about not having in game mandalorian death threats. It draws attention your way and sets the other players up.

Tthink about it as a performance ability for mvp votes. Cause that is probably the only way you can try to get an numbers edge over other specs.

BH's do have higher look cool abilities and looks do count

Its a game have fun and literally die trying.


Mando'ay

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cashogy_reborn
03.10.2013 , 10:13 PM | #694
lol @ you attempting to justify merc's only role in high level pvp: cannon fodder
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DariusCalera
03.10.2013 , 11:40 PM | #695
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadDogBarking View Post
My Merc got kicked from a flash point after the tank died and I was back pedaling from the boss. I was called a coward - end of game - go now. All I could do was stand there with rapid fire and die more quickly with everyone else or buy some time wait out the cool down and have less of chance of being interupted and try to pull a rabbit out of my armor.
Cool down of what ability? I really can't think of any that would honestly change the outcome of a wipe other than a battle rez.

Quote: Originally Posted by DeadDogBarking View Post
Not everyone is the star. the merc if used in a team setting is a group multiplier. In soccer we see the Forwards and Goalies, but the halfbacks are in the middle and can tend to cover more ground. They aid both offense and defense, but get a lot less credit for scores or saves. They make both offense and defense work better. This type of organization will not happen in PUG WZ for the most part but a good repeat group should be able to use the mercs skills to the teams advantage.
The question is, why bring a merc to do that when there are a number of other classes that can do it better and without the babysitting?

Quote: Originally Posted by DeadDogBarking View Post
As for the Merc itself,
Stay out of direct combat, but know it will come your way. If you know the end is coming go to the center of as many players as possible and create that beautifull fireworks show . Then spam BioWare about not having in game mandalorian death threats. It draws attention your way and sets the other players up.

Tthink about it as a performance ability for mvp votes. Cause that is probably the only way you can try to get an numbers edge over other specs.

BH's do have higher look cool abilities and looks do count

Its a game have fun and literally die trying.

Mando'ay
As for the rest of this.....what?

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ArchangelLBC
03.10.2013 , 11:45 PM | #696
What the? I don't even...
In update 2.9 the game will simply uninstall itself for you.

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Jherad
03.11.2013 , 07:03 AM | #697
Drugs are bad, mmm'kay?
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Natharon
03.11.2013 , 10:16 AM | #698
Quote: Originally Posted by mdtk View Post
I play a commando as do alot of other 50s on my server. We are some of the most wanted players. 1v1 I can almost kill anything that has the same or slightly better gear then me. You just need to learn how to play your class.
Or your server is full of scrub players.
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mdtk
03.18.2013 , 02:24 PM | #699
really? yes I admit that the class is in need of some help after playing it in PvP more but only if you do not have smart players on your team. Also the changes that are being implemented in 2.0 will give us the defenses we need.
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DariusCalera
03.18.2013 , 02:30 PM | #700
Quote: Originally Posted by mdtk View Post
really? yes I admit that the class is in need of some help after playing it in PvP more but only if you do not have smart players on your team. Also the changes that are being implemented in 2.0 will give us the defenses we need.
It was never defenses that we really needed. While nice, we could have all the defenses in the world but if we can not get our damage out then we are useless.

I would give all of those defensive changes for an uninterruptable Grav Round.