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Even out the classes!!!

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Even out the classes!!!

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Kyzic
10.04.2012 , 10:05 PM | #11
Okay maybe its simply this between the resolve bar and anyone still in BM the grind the WH is just stupid. I have worked on playing against a marauder and it has gotten better (I will admit when I am wrong and Marauders/Sents are as bad as I thought) but still going up against a shadow/assassin tank spec or 23/1/17 (and lets be honest maybe 2% of pvpers don't use one of those as an assassin/shadow) they are just ungodly overpowered. The ability to break free from any of my movement impairing effects and pop FiB from being rooted 30m away they are just stupid overpowered right now.

And my only complaint for VG/PT and Juggernaught/Guardians is simpy a tank class should not be doing 5-7k hits on me and still be hard as hell to kill. If they are going to be a have the defense of tank than lower their dmg if they are going to do the dmg of a dps then lower their defense. Right now it takes too long to try to kill them as a class that is supposed to be a dps class.

And this is more about my gunslinger than any of my other classes. My scoundrel is a healer is lets just face it, it takes about 3 people to be able to kill him. My VG falls into the upper category i am to the point where I am simply taking out 3 people at once. And my shadow again falls into the upper category usually the only people that kill me on him are juggernaughts or other tank sins.
KELINUR - 50 SHADOW ~ LOSK - 50 VANGUARD
MOR'TYM - 50 GUNSLINGER ~ KYZIC - 50 SCOUNDREL

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Ardim
10.04.2012 , 10:30 PM | #12
What spec are you on your Gunslinger?
The Alabaster Legacy
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Totaltrash
10.04.2012 , 10:34 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
This is going to sound weird, but as a Sorc healer I find the easiest class for me to go up against 1vs1 is a Gunslinger/Sniper. Why is that?
Heh, I don't know how you can kill a Sniper with a Sorc healer

BUT my favorite targets when I play my Sorc DPS are Snipers/GS.
Of course, when I play my sniper, my favorite targets are Sorc/Sages - go figure.
DPS Sorc/Sage can easily od a Sniper/GS, Sniper/GS can easily interrupt and od a Sorc/Sage healer.

Back to the OP's post, I agree that adjustments are needed (but not necessarily the ones he suggests).

Of course, Bioware does not listen to the community nor do they read the forums.
The "world's best PVP team" knows better even if they never play the game themselves.
Every change they made to PVP since launch clearly reflects that.
Every patch degrades the experience a little more for us.


So, I'm sorry to say but these balance threads are a HUGE WASTE OF TIME!

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Centures
10.04.2012 , 11:10 PM | #14
Very good thread People are being honest

My operative is not only OP but I can kill just about anyone sooner than later


We need to have honest assessments, not powerful classes protecting "thier turf"

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elvendon
10.05.2012 , 12:49 AM | #15
IMO, some classes just scale better than other classes, especially when you hit level 50. Sages are very competitive until level 50 and then they are pretty much forced to go heals in order to contribute as much as another class would in their place.

I agree with the previous comment that Bioware just does not listen to their player base. The continually roll out changes that are neither asked for nor required. I also agree that they do not even play their own game in a competitive atmosphere. They may test things on their little protected server but if you throw them into a 50 rated as a dps sorc/sage then they would have a rough go of it imo.

Balance forum posts are not useless; the forums are here for that. Unfortunately, as in any game, the overpowered classes watch carefully for any threads that point out the discrepancies among classes and they always make sure to enlighten us with their counterclaims. It is akin to professional athletes who draw fouls with bogus flops in order to fool the senior-citizen referees. They know that they are overpowered and they just want to prolong their free, skill-less ride. They get on every balance-request thread and leave 'QQ' or 'L2P' comments. But can we blame them?

It can all be solved if the developers would just play their own damn game, as each class and in a truly competitive environment.

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Ycoga
10.05.2012 , 03:16 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Totaltrash View Post
Heh, I don't know how you can kill a Sniper with a Sorc healer
Force speed to close the gap, bubble stun to blind, DoT's to damage them, LoS to give you time. If they break cover to chase, that's when they've handed you all the advantage.

Quite simple really.
'Pre-2.0 PvP... The gear gap was too big and some players became non-contributors quickly because of the gear gap. It wasn’t fun for the majority of players' - Alex Modny

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DaedalusV
10.05.2012 , 04:16 AM | #17
Snipers kill bad sage healers. Good sage healers aren't bothered much by those turrets. LoS hardcounters them.
"you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
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Kyzic
10.05.2012 , 11:33 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ardim View Post
What spec are you on your Gunslinger?
My gunslinger is a sharpshooter build and I do understand that is not the idela choice for a gunslinger and that dirty fighting is better because the dots avoid the defenses of a tank class but that is my point. Make the other trees viable for pvp and allow them to be competitive and not make one build or tree basically required to be a competitve pvper as that class. When I PVE with my gunslinger i favor the sharpshooter tree simply because crap dies too fast for dirty fighting dots to truly take affect (this is of course in FPs and not OPs where as I feel both trees are viable in the OPs). And personally I feel a gunslinger is a simply what it says a gunslinger they should do big dmg from a distance and not have to go to a tree that makes them into something like a balance sage where they have to let a dot tick off and use some very few burst abilities.
KELINUR - 50 SHADOW ~ LOSK - 50 VANGUARD
MOR'TYM - 50 GUNSLINGER ~ KYZIC - 50 SCOUNDREL

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Joesixxpack
10.05.2012 , 11:45 AM | #19
OP, now's a good time to learn how to play your toon well, and adjust your tactics appropriately.

Source: My underspecced, undergeared sab GS, who'd be laughing his butt off at your post if he weren't merely pixels.

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jstergar
10.05.2012 , 12:07 PM | #20
I'm not familiar with the gunslinger tree but if sharpshooter is the mirror of sniper's marksmen then we've found your problem.

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