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Thursday Night Ranked Warzone! Join!

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BigGoatBR
09.28.2012 , 09:01 AM | #1
Hi guys,

Yesterday we had what could easily be called a "ranked warzone day" on the republic fleet. We had up to four ranked groups preparing teams at the same time, with three joining queue continuosly. I participated in three ranked games, but some friends got as much as five, which is pretty good for one night (8 to 10pm central).

So the idea came up to set Thursday's Night as the official Begeren Colony ranked pvp night.

Feel free to discuss if there should be another day (Friday? Saturday?) in this official list, but it would be good to keep Thursday since I talked with many people that confirmed it's a good day for them.

Because there's no easy way to communicate with imperials, people find it easier to just get 16 people from same faction and join together (nobody likes the rwz queue). EH is doing what they call "kickball warzone" which is interesting, but I find the concept annoying because the whole point of pvping in SWTOR is playing pubs x imps. So we are hoping imperials will join us every Thursday. Reply if you like the idea and tell us your faction.

Suggested time frame is from 8pm to 10pm CENTRAL. So update your agenda: Thursday, 8-10pm central - Ranked Warzones.

* Some people are concerned about the top geared players showing up to get their comms on Thursdays. I think if we keep doing this we could later think of a strategy to make sure higher valor players play against each other, giving good chance to everyone. But for now, the idea is just to have ONE night when everyone could be sure ranked queue won't be taking too long...

Thanks.

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PoliteAssasin
09.28.2012 , 11:12 AM | #2
Exiles already organized Friday as the ranked pvp night a long time ago, just FYI. Scyn to be specific.
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BigGoatBR
09.28.2012 , 11:32 AM | #3
I didn't see a lot of movement in that matter last two fridays, at least not in the Republic Fleet, but let's see how it goes tonight. If it happens, then sure, as long as everyone joins it's fine. We had over 25 players getting ready for ranked wz in the fleet alone.

Here are two screenshots from yesterday, covering some of the people that joined (only took SS of first result, which we lost, but anyway it's mostly to name some of the players):

http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws....nal/825579.jpg

http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws....nal/825580.jpg

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Reynaga
09.28.2012 , 12:28 PM | #4
I applaud you sir for attempting to ban together people in order to get your goals accomplished, don't give up. Keep working towards your goal. Be mindful of others, while there is a rwz night on friday, you could set up a casual night for rwz. Perhaps not everyone can be on friday night (real life or for whatever reason) so haveing multiple nights of people actually trying to set these things up.
The Korbin Legacy B.C.
"When fighting monsters, one must take care not to become a monster themselves." F. N.

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Boch
09.28.2012 , 12:38 PM | #5
I love this idea, and the fact people threw together random teams is the best part. But there are 2 flaws I see. First is I believe a few guilds raid on Thursdays, not a huge problem but the more people the better. The second and biggest problem will be when people start stacking teams. Getting stomped is no fun, which will cause people to stop queing. And after awhile doing the stomping is no fun. So I think we need to come up with a solution to that problem before it happens.
Konts of <Ascension>
Rolling with a pocket guard since 2.0.

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Reynaga
09.28.2012 , 12:52 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Boch View Post
The second and biggest problem will be when people start stacking teams. Getting stomped is no fun, which will cause people to stop queing. And after awhile doing the stomping is no fun.
I agree with you there. Seemingly there is no end to the amount of people who like to just run around showing that they are "superior". This happens in regular warzones too. There is no easy fix, and the only real solution I can see is to get a lot of people interested and queueing so that there would be only a few of those *****s and then you would only face them every now and again, while still being able to enjoy good competative games for the most part. For that reason I would LOVE cross server queueing, sad part would be that I wouldn't be able to play against some people who are actually awesome and recognizable for the most part anymore. I remember when it happened on WoW and I didn't recognize anyone, it made me sad. At the same time though it opened up the door and allowed for more people and when you don't recognize people you don't have others automatically giving up, so every game was interesting on HOW it was going to play out.
The Korbin Legacy B.C.
"When fighting monsters, one must take care not to become a monster themselves." F. N.

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Boch
09.28.2012 , 01:05 PM | #7
I have a master plan on how to fix that problem but it may be a little delusional. It will alot of organizing and willing people. When I get to my comp, on my phone now, I will write it up.
Konts of <Ascension>
Rolling with a pocket guard since 2.0.

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RayGonJinn
09.28.2012 , 02:08 PM | #8
Konstance I absolutely agree with you about the stacking teams part. and since I am the controversial one on the Server... Source! stop trying to dominate everyone pls... If you and Grim Determination want to choose a night where you want to stomp eachother in the ground by having all guild members in your Q you should do that... Yesterday when we started RWZ groups overwhelming teams were not allowed. I was there to be a pain in the neck to let everyone have a fair chance at winning comms and i heard that the teams were dead even in a RWZ Voidstar with each teams having people in recruit and battlemaster gear. Konstance I greatly look forward to your input on how we should continue the RWZ on multiple nights on a weekly basis.

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BigGoatBR
09.28.2012 , 03:54 PM | #9
The last paragraph on the original post mentions this problem. It was brought up yesterday.

I'm looking forward to hear Konstance's solution. Make sure it envolves me ending up in your team =). By the way, I saw you in the fleet yesterday night, but you weren't doing ranked wzs were you?

I think in the end we will be able to organize it in a fair way. If nothing works, we can always quit the match when either team realizes it's off balance - as long as both team's are aware of the problem, it shouldn't be an issue (maybe we could come up with a protocol to introduce each team - naming guild and top players, average gear, something quick before battle starts).

I just hope that we DO try to figure out a way to make it work, instead of not doing ranked WZ at all or only doing rwz with teams from the same faction.

Quote: Originally Posted by RayGonJinn View Post
i heard that the teams were dead even in a RWZ Voidstar with each teams having people in recruit and battlemaster gear.
RayGon, the second link above is from that match (here). Yeah, best match of the night for sure, very balanced teams, lots of healing for both sides. We lost that one but it was really fun and really close.

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Zenithan
09.28.2012 , 04:03 PM | #10
This is, at least theoretically, a good idea, since Scyn's Friday ranked warzone nights have been dead for quite some time (as far as I can tell, unless they're being kept secret.) Melyn's attempts to reinvigorate those, even trying different days, only worked for a little while. My fear is that if anyone from Ascension, Exiles, Grim Determination, or Source organises even a semi-optimal team, they will die again. At the same time, it will be hard to convince anyone from a higher-rated team to join a pug, as they will take much larger rating hits than anyone else in the event that they lose, and some of them are working toward things like the black-purple expertise crystal (I know Desi would love one) or the mount (in my case, since I'm a compulsive collector, although I don't see that ever happening.) Plus, half the fun of it for me is being with a team I can count on and joke around with. As far as I know, none of it is for the sake of rating itself.

I'd happily wear recruit gear in ranked matches if it would make for more competitive ranked warzones. Ranked is where I go for intense competition and close matches rather than a comm-stomp patrol. The past few games I've won have been hard-fought. On the other hand, I go to normal warzones for fun, and when every match has a premade, it becomes tiresome very quickly (unless you beat them with a pug, in which case it's great.) People stop queuing, and only end up going in with a premade, which just makes the problem worse (guilty as charged on this one.)

Konstance, if you have an idea, it would be great to hear it, because the state of ranked on Begeren is pretty awful right now for me.

As for any top PvP guilds, I'd ask that you not bring your A-team to these nights until we can come to some sort of consensus about what to do. In the meantime, I hope all of you who do participate have fun matches and get yourself some ranked practice with comms on the side.

Have fun!
-Ryd