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Noob help Tanking in HM Flash-Points

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Noob help Tanking in HM Flash-Points

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GalaxyStrong
09.26.2012 , 01:57 PM | #1
so i turned lvl 50 a week ago and decided I would try my first HM-FP so, I tried BlackTalon. I only did okay but, thankfully the other random guys basically carried me through. They were very polite but they said something that threw me for a loop. They inspected my gear and told me it was all wrong. All of my stuff : mods, enhancements and armoring are purple lvl 45-49 mostly guardian armor, deft mods ( i think) and a few different enhancements. They said I needed to switch from TANK gear to DPS gear! They said in order to do HM FP and get Tionese, Columie and Rakata gear I need to re-gear heavy on DPS and light on tank gear.

I want to know everyone's opinion on this.
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Aelrict
09.26.2012 , 02:16 PM | #2
lol, I tanked HM FE for my first hard mode flashpoint wearing moddable gear containing items from the daily group quests. Guess what, it was all tank gear, I had no survival issues, and we cleared it with hardly any problems even though we were all noobs, this was pre nerf by the way.

If you havent picked up the recruit gear from the pvp vendor I suggest you do, its probably better than what you have right now.

If you use dps gear you might hold threat a little more but your ability to survive boss encounters will plummet due to your lack of defense, shield rating, and absorption.

PS That was with a juggernaut in full immortal spec.

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dosadnik
09.26.2012 , 02:18 PM | #3
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BeToo
09.26.2012 , 03:23 PM | #4
While no expert ... I know that even with those lvl 49 mods, as a Tanking Guardian I had issues with holding my own easily on the BlackHole Dailies, much less HM FPs, as a recent no0b 50. May I suggest simply running the dailies and get the better relics/implants/earPieces with daily comms at least before doing too many HM FPs. It only takes a few days to notice that you can now do the dailies pretty easily, without relying heavily on the healer companion. And as your gear gets even better you'll laugh that it was ever a challenge at all.

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Oggthebase
09.26.2012 , 04:05 PM | #5
I think they were just pulling your leg as if you're a tank, you should definitely work on obtaining tank gear with endurance, shield rating, absorb rating and defense.
Or was it a misunderstanding perhaps? Were they suggesting you should dps instead of tank and therefore work on a dps set of equipment?

Nevertheless, you should keep these sets separate

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haliy
09.27.2012 , 04:56 AM | #6
Bad advice from bad players. Tanks should be geared with tank gear. Leave the dps gear for the dps. Please do not be tank specced and dps geared and que up as a tank. Seen this happen way too many times since it just becomes very frustrating for the healers. HM's like LI will get you kicked in a heartbeat when doing this.
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Joesixxpack
09.27.2012 , 08:56 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by haliy View Post
Bad advice from bad players. Tanks should be geared with tank gear. Leave the dps gear for the dps. Please do not be tank specced and dps geared and que up as a tank. Seen this happen way too many times since it just becomes very frustrating for the healers. HM's like LI will get you kicked in a heartbeat when doing this.
^ This sums it up.

With a vanguard shield/tactics hybrid I'll wear dps gear in the Black Hole heroic, and some other easy group things because it doesn't really matter, they're easy. Not recommended though for HMs. One option, get your tank and dps full gear sets and wear what you need. Make sure your skill specs are right though for the task.

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Darth_Taral
10.01.2012 , 07:31 AM | #8
Hey guys,

Yesterday I ran my first HM Flashpoint (Black Talon), as the tank (I'm a Juggernaut). There I got the exact opposite criticism: that I was decked out in DPS gear, and that I should be in Tank gear.

Now, for the record, what I'm wearing is mostly the free Recruit gear. I have a Black Hole piece for my arms, a Battlemaster piece for my belt (I know it's a PVP piece, but it's better than Recruit, and I could afford it), and a Tionese helmet (given to me by someone in HM), all of which are high endurance (but I couldn't afford pieces that specialize in shield, absorption, surge, or defense).

I just find it amusing that two people got the exact opposite criticism

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Infalliable
10.01.2012 , 08:17 AM | #9
You probably could tank Black Talon in DPS gear especially with most people queuing with gear that is overkill for the flashpoint. But it is not a strategy for long term success. Black talon is one of the easier flash points out there.

To tank (difficult) end game content, you NEED to have tank gear. DPS gear simply will not cut it in anything other than the easiest encounters.

As a fresh L50, you should be doing flashpoints to get the gear you'll need to do harder content not optimizing your gear for that specific encounter (at the expense of future viability).

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Eternalnight
10.01.2012 , 12:32 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Taral View Post
pieces that specialize in shield, absorption, surge, or defense
SURGE IS NOT A TANK STAT!
(yes there are pieces for guardian/juggernaut tank sets that have surge in them, but this is just a bad itemization)