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atheosa
09.25.2012 , 10:13 PM | #1
I just recently started doing high level missions on Illum. the final mission is false emperor flashpoint. I tried it several times. I am a jedi knight gaurdian tank. It seems like the group seemed to rely on me too much. is this normal for this flashpoint. I held agro during the whole flashpoint. no one hardly ever got attacked unless many, many enemies. when it came to the end, Malgus, I held agro, interupted every 8 seconds(thats the cooldown for the action), and I even kited him down the stairs around the corner a couple of times, my group never even threw one grenade or used a single push back. my group actually tried to vote on kicking me once. Is there a trick to beating him I dont know? was my group justified in thinking I wasnt doing enough? I am stumped by this flashpoint. any advice is appreciated.

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vojinsa
09.26.2012 , 12:30 AM | #2
sometimes he will turn on ***hole mode and not follow you when he drops really low. as a tank, dps, or healer on the last solo phase i will run to the edge if im last in line. some drag him to the corner but i have seen him get knocked back to the opposite edge. the pillars leading up to him are a great place to tank him with your back facing one.
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metaIsaber
09.26.2012 , 06:37 AM | #3
Simple fight actually. It's kind of hard to prep when the fight starts immediately after the cutscene.

However to do this as easily as possible, behind your group is the narrow(ish) catwalk/walkway that started at the door and leads to the throne. On the sides of that catwalk/runway are vertical pillars that are evenly spaced out (15m?).
See poor illustration below

What I do and many in our run groups do is, the tank will draw immediate aggro while the others do not attack. Run back to pillar 2 (see below) and put your back against it. You should then be facing pillar 1. On your left is the catwalk/runway and on your right is the pit. While you keep your back to this pillar you can't be knocked off. The DPS (ranged) and healer should have their backs against pillar 1 facing pillar 2 which is where the tank is. In this position the dps/healer can't be knocked back since they are again the pillar. Stay in this position the entire fight. Healers can use area effects here and heal everyone at once. When he's ready to knock off, there is no "pulling" him into position since he's already there. Have a DPS/Heal come out at that point and use their knock back or grenade. Bingo. Game Over Simple. You won't want to do it any other way after this.

The only tricky part is if you have 1 or 2 melee dps. In between Pillar 1 an 2 is a "small" rectangular box closest to the tank. If you position yourself so that the box is directly behind your toon, you wont get affected by the knockback and you are in melee range to dps.

The other thing is that Malgus will randomly target a member in the group and run towards them. When the tank gets aggro back, he may not move back to the tank (stays still). To get him to move back to you, use your forward movement key and move a couple steps towards him. He will then dart back to you. Then just use your back movement key to put your back against the pillar again.

------ <-- Stairs
x x <- pillar 1
| | <- open area
x x < - pillar 2
| |
x x
------ <-- Entrance/Door

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GalaxyStrong
09.26.2012 , 11:39 AM | #4
I have a question

when it's time to throw him off the edge doesn't say something like " the empire is doomed" or something like that indicating that it is time to use the pulse grenades. I thought he did but maybe not. Can someone confirm this?
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Gidrea
09.26.2012 , 01:59 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by GalaxyStrong View Post
I have a question

when it's time to throw him off the edge doesn't say something like " the empire is doomed" or something like that indicating that it is time to use the pulse grenades. I thought he did but maybe not. Can someone confirm this?
You get a message that Malgus's resolve is wavering, and if you have your grenade on your toolbar, it will become active. Also, the dramatic music starts to play.

OP, you say you are interrupting every 8 seconds... if you do this, you may miss interrupting "Unlimited Power", which wipes out the group. It's best to save your interrupt for that.
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KrayvenVolcanus
09.26.2012 , 02:13 PM | #6
I have never used the grenade. Always force push.
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GalaxyStrong
09.26.2012 , 05:16 PM | #7
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I have never used the grenade. Always force push.
I didn't know force push worked, that's great. If I don't knock him off with the gernade i have a back-up plan.
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magi_melcior
09.26.2012 , 05:21 PM | #8
For the majority of the fight, keep him on the stairs in front of his throne, this avoids any issues with his horrific knockback. As the previous poster said you only really need to interrupt Unlimited Power, most of his other channeled moves do little if any real damage. Once he gets down to 15% or right after the 4th player has had their solo moment with Malgus, kite him onto the bridge. As soon as it says his resolve is weakening, circle round him to line up the knockback and blast him off the edge, sometimes it takes two players working together to knock him off, one blasts him to the ledge and the other over it. Also once he starts spamming Force Lightning you have to move fast, it acts like a Soft Enrage and will gradually increase in power until you can't heal through it (that might just be in the Hard Mode, not sure). It's wise to ask the group if they know the tactics before entering the throne room, there is absolutely no reason why you as the Tank should have to do all the work.
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Gidrea
09.26.2012 , 05:25 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by KrayvenVolcanus View Post
I have never used the grenade. Always force push.
Me, too, but I put the grenade on my toolbar so if I miss with Force Push, I can try the grenade instead of waiting for the cooldown.
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Taleek
09.26.2012 , 05:29 PM | #10
You don't HAVE to wait for the text to pop up to knock him back, that's just for people that are too dense to actually know to read the buffs on a boss. If you read his buff when he's in the final phase, you'll see that the second knockback during his lightning channel will affect him.
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