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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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PseudoScience
03.26.2013 , 11:37 PM | #3981
Talk to EA with your wallets and not your hearts!

It's the only language they understand. Save APAC in SW:TOR.
APAC

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Nommaz
03.26.2013 , 11:38 PM | #3982
Quote: Originally Posted by Elysiah View Post
Hahaha you must certainly feel accomplished. Losing your in game name is probably the least significant thing about this whole server merger.
You really don't understand at all, it has nothing to do with accomplishment, but I wont try and convince you, let just say there is a lot of people that DO care regardless of reasons and that made your you really cares anyway statement offensive and incorrect.

The fact that your online name means nothing to you does not translate to mean it shouldn't for others

The ping, the fact that some of us have 12 plus slots full and some on our "destination server" and will no doubt be forced to delete them, and the fact that some of us will have to change guild names, legacy names, player names, are the issues here, the so called survey that I only knew about from this thread was never given to the large general playing public, and the then forced relocation are also all issues, making light of one of these is uncalled for.

Any one of the above means little or a lot to different people and its not your place to judge (nor mine).

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Icykill_
03.26.2013 , 11:39 PM | #3983
ALSO EA/BIO... HERE'S A THOUGHT...
WHY NOT MERGE Harbinger WITH THE APAC SERVERS... THAT WOULD INCREASE POPULATION
OR ARE YOU WORRIED YOUR AMERICAN SUBSCRIBERS WILL DO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO... UNSUBSCRIBE???

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Icykill_
03.26.2013 , 11:40 PM | #3984
Quote: Originally Posted by PseudoScience View Post
Talk to EA with your wallets and not your hearts!

It's the only language they understand. Save APAC in SW:TOR.
ALSO SIGN THE PETITION... it is up to 361 and climbing

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...em-into-1.html

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Elysiah
03.26.2013 , 11:42 PM | #3985
Quote: Originally Posted by Icykill_ View Post
Just rolled a Harbinger character to see the latency... my best is 220ms... from 21ms on Dalbora
I only PVP in the game and do the class/companion quests
After about 20 mins it is apparent this lag will effect my PVP... I will keep lvling till I can PVP... so I have a comparison
And the reason it will effect me in PVP is I TAB target a lot and use HOT Keys... I am finding just in PVE that I am on top of the mobs before my casts work... there is definitely a 1-2sec lag... and I TAB through targets quickly... when it takes 2 seconds to get to another target or have a med pack... guess what, your too late and your dead
Well i don't know what internet connection you have, but i was playing PvP on harbinger with a aussie friend last night and we got through the match fine.
he finished in the top 3 and i was around the middle.
The slight lag didnt effect us.

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Icykill_
03.26.2013 , 11:43 PM | #3986
Quote: Originally Posted by soneil View Post
I did high end pvp for several years in wow (high ranked arena teams) which was always on US servers and I've done enough pvp on aussie servers so have a point of comparison. I just did a heck of a lot more of it while I was on a US server. So I'm pretty sure I do have a handle on things. You didn't answer my question though. Have you played on US servers? If you've tried both as I have then perhaps you'll have a handle on things.

Most of the complaints I've seen seem to come from people on dalbora where pop times for pvp and pve aren't as big an issue.
Actually I have... and I used to PVP in WoW for 9 years... which sucked because of the LAG... PVP is so much better in SWTOR because of the local server

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-IceHawk-
03.26.2013 , 11:45 PM | #3987
Quote: Originally Posted by grallmate View Post
I'm freaking Einstein reincarnated with Sir Isaac Newton's brain stitched in for good measure. See, we can all make unreasonable claims on the internet. FWIW, 150 isn't that great. Mine's 154 and I've been an Undergrad for 7 years because I get bored and change degrees frequently.
Well, good luck on finding a program that actually fits you.

Quote: Originally Posted by grallmate View Post
But quite frankly, no one here really cares what you have to say. Most of APAC just want to whine somewhere about the decision and are looking for support, not logic. For someone so 'smart' you really don't understand that much. Reminds me of my numerous Comp. Science Lecturers that couldn't get an Overhead Projector working.
For people who do not care I find it strange the pure amount of attention I am receiving, from you for instance.

I assume you will not respond to me in any kind, considering you truly do not care what I am saying.

Anyways, I am well aware of what this thread has devolved into.
What I am looking to do is minimally find people in the community who can move on from the trolling and vitriol, recognize the reality behind what is going on, stop asking for the impossible, and start formulating some plans for what to do.

The APAC threads have all degenerated into EA-bashing in one form or another at some point; usually it takes both time and a small injection of rational thought to redirect it.

Quote: Originally Posted by grallmate View Post
Most of the outrage here is that Bioware asked us APAC players what we wanted and the general consensus was a server merge to Dalborra (where I call home) which has a sustainable population but could always benefit from the extra population. The benefit most people wanted (especially the PvPers) was the maintain the low ping to which we have become accustomed to. Secondary benefits included the ability to maintain our identity as the APAC server and the lower population causing fewer name clashes.
I think we are all well aware of what APAC wanted.
We are likewise aware of what EA thinks about the size and scope of that population.

Quote: Originally Posted by grallmate View Post
Now the first thing I did when I heard about this was log onto the Harbinger and try to get my names. I got all my Grall* names below but was unable to get any of the others. I advised all my Guildies to do the same of which most could get 1 or 2 but often not their primary name. I understand that when the merger actually happens we may still get to keep some of the names and we will lose some depending on a number of factors.

We then began to level to 10 so we could reserve the guild names. During that time I found the general play lag to be bearable. I found a lot more missed GCDs (from maybe 1 in 100 to about 5 in a hundred) but otherwise it seemed fairly playable. I know that once we have moved and are working on "progression level" content that might change and I dread to think of the PvPers in my guild. Interrupting with a 20-40ms ping is vastly easier than interrupting with a 200-300ms ping. This will be amplified by the increased value of Alacrity which will lower the 'interrupt window'.

Anyway, what it really comes down to is BW asked us what we wanted and gave us something completely different. If you go to an Ice Cream Parlour and ask for Chocolate, you'd be annoyed if they give you Vanilla because its more cost effective. Same deal here.
We all lost Character Names and Guild names in the server transfers, it happens. I lost 3 in the end.

However, Bioware asking your preference was not a statement that APAC was going to make the decision; they were sending up a trial balloon to see how dedicated the population was and to see if it would be amenable to a move.

In the end I think a good number will actually transfer over.

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Elysiah
03.26.2013 , 11:46 PM | #3988
Quote: Originally Posted by Nommaz View Post
You really don't understand at all, it has nothing to do with accomplishment, but I wont try and convince you, let just say there is a lot of people that DO care regardless of reasons and that made your you really cares anyway statement offensive and incorrect.

The fact that your online name means nothing to you does not translate to mean it shouldn't for others

The ping, the fact that some of us have 12 plus slots full and some on our "destination server" and will no doubt be forced to delete them, and the fact that some of us will have to change guild names, legacy names, player names, are the issues here, the so called survey that I only knew about from this thread was never given to the large general playing public, and the then forced relocation are also all issues, making light of one of these is uncalled for.

Any one of the above means little or a lot to different people and its not your place to judge (nor mine).
Nope i do not understand why such value is placed into an online game character name.
i play the game for fun, not for people to know my in game name lol.
If you have friends in-game that only know you by said in-game name im sure it wouldnt be hard to inform them of your new name if you had to rename.

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Icykill_
03.26.2013 , 11:49 PM | #3989
Quote: Originally Posted by Elysiah View Post
Well i don't know what internet connection you have, but i was playing PvP on harbinger with a aussie friend last night and we got through the match fine.
he finished in the top 3 and i was around the middle.
The slight lag didnt effect us.
Regardless what I have... a 220ms Ping is causing a 1-2 second delay... most PVPer's would agree that can be the difference between killing your opponent or dying...
Anyway if you are American... what do you care... it won't effect you... so go Troll someplace else and let the APAC players voice their opinions to EA/BIO... instead of you filling it up with your nonsense

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-IceHawk-
03.26.2013 , 11:50 PM | #3990
Quote: Originally Posted by Elysiah View Post
Nope i do not understand why such value is placed into an online game character name.
i play the game for fun, not for people to know my in game name lol.
If you have friends in-game that only know you by said in-game name im sure it wouldnt be hard to inform them of your new name if you had to rename.
Honestly, I was relatively annoyed at losing a few names. Fortunately some sly application of accent marks fixed it.

Character Names, Guild Names, an Legacy Names do actually matter for people who are investing a good deal of time and money into the game.

Always wondered why Bioware did not utilize an Independent and Unique User ID that would allow freedom of name choices (within reason).