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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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uteboy
03.26.2013 , 06:09 AM | #3691
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
One thing to note is that there is no catchall solution here.
And yet a catch all solution is exactly what you are applying.

The real problem here is the lack of a server transfer tool. With it you could have let those that wanted to transfer off to any server they like, and merged the rest into one server. Even allow free transfers from other servers back to APAC in an attempt to boost the population. ( Population balancing by use of free transfers has been well established in that other game ).

Suddenly we would have a multi-faceted solution that would probably upset far less people.

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bibbyd
03.26.2013 , 06:12 AM | #3692
I honestly cant believe this is happening what the actual ****
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liaison
03.26.2013 , 06:14 AM | #3693
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey everyone,

Why did we decide not to merge the three APAC servers into one large APAC server? We decided this for two main reasons. 1. The issue in doing this is that two play-styles (PvE, PvE-RP, or PvP) would need to sacrifice their desired play-style in order to have one server with a higher population. We feel that it is important that each player is allowed to continue to play SWTOR in their preferred play-style. Therefore, accommodating all the existing play-styles was a primary goal. By allowing you to move to a NA West server, you will be able to keep your play-style. 2. The move to North American servers better delivers on our ultimate goal of providing the best play experience, with the most possible players, long term.

-eric
I am not a regular poster, but I need to share my thoughts. The one thing that makes SWTOR an enjoyable MMO is that when I hit my spell whatever it may be, it actually goes off then and there. Whether I am in an OPs or PVPing having a 22ms response time is great. If I wanted to play with the typical 300ms response time I get on the US servers, I would simply not play this game.

High pings make MMO's not enjoyable and unplayable at times, as both your performance in OPS and PVP suffer, and it puts you on an unfair playing field. As such, as soon as this transfer goes live, I will be cancelling my subscription.

EDIT: I also want to had, somthing I just realised, I pre ordered the expac, can I get a refund?

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aVmuse
03.26.2013 , 06:16 AM | #3694
Quote: Originally Posted by liaison View Post
I am not a regular poster, but I need to share my thoughts. The one thing that makes SWTOR an enjoyable MMO is that when I hit my spell whatever it may be, it actually goes off then and there. Whether I am in an OPs or PVPing having a 22ms response time is great. If I wanted to play with the typical 300ms response time I get on the US servers, I would simply not play this game.

High pings make MMO's not enjoyable and unplayable at times, as both your performance in OPS and PVP suffer, and it puts you on an unfair playing field. As such, as soon as this transfer goes live, I will be cancelling my subscription.
Do it before the merge so they don't get your money.

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wadsfasdf
03.26.2013 , 06:18 AM | #3695
This is crap. I love this game. Setting aside all the faults this game has, it truly is one of the most entertaining games I have ever played. This game is the reason I started playing wow. I left wow to come back to this game.

If these server xfers go ahead, chances are I'll head back to wow. Sure, I might stick around long enough to check out you new expac. Then my subs are gone.

I don't understand how they can even consider this beneficial to their APAC player base.

*is confused*

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LuthanieI
03.26.2013 , 06:18 AM | #3696
Quote: Originally Posted by Slaven_claw View Post
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ignatures.html

Support our petition for server merges, we already have over 200 signatures
Indeed we will ! This is absurd, they want to solve the population problem but really they should solve the root cause of the problem. The root cause is the lack of publicity across Asia pacific, slow in response to bugs and slow in game content. They should recitify these things and naturally more will play this game.

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MouldyCrow
03.26.2013 , 06:19 AM | #3697
For those leaving keep hitting up their customer service people for refunds on ROTHC if you preordered it.

If they don't do it soon we can hit up http://consumerist.com/ - they recently crucified EA over the Sim City refunds, we can do it again.
Unsubbed! Voting against the APAC server closures - with my wallet.

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D_anger
03.26.2013 , 06:20 AM | #3698
cancelled, sub ends tomorrow.

to everyone thinking that we can change their mind, it took them 7 months since the start of this thread correct? it took them 2-3 months since they said "we are looking at this". as much as i hope they do, i do not see them changing their minds within 2 days.

good luck, have fun, see you guys elsewhere (Steam)

/K
Kaelus the Incidental GM
REFUND EXPECTED

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Knockerz
03.26.2013 , 06:21 AM | #3699
Quote: Originally Posted by uteboy View Post
And yet a catch all solution is exactly what you are applying.

The real problem here is the lack of a server transfer tool. With it you could have let those that wanted to transfer off to any server they like, and merged the rest into one server. Even allow free transfers from other servers back to APAC in an attempt to boost the population. ( Population balancing by use of free transfers has been well established in that other game ).

Suddenly we would have a multi-faceted solution that would probably upset far less people.
Yes, BW could have avoid a lot of bad publicity and trouble had they had the forethought of making such a service during beta instead of some oft the fluffy they work on instead. I'm still resentful that after months my original characters are stuck on a server I don't want to be on.

If your referring to wow free transfers. They never worked, which is why they don't bother offering them any more except when new expansion comes out. People always transfer from low pops to high populated servers. Thus, I don't think people would want to transfer to the low pop APAC servers even if they gave free transfers especially when there is no way to get off them or if you need to pay to get off.

The only real solution for BW that would had this problem be less of problem was if they had a transfer service that would let you choose which server you want to transfer. Thus, people would not feel forced onto a specific server. However, the APAC servers were doomed from a financial point, which is why they probably are closing them down. It's a business after, probably the reason hardly any mmorpg have APAC located servers.
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WizardsDestiny
03.26.2013 , 06:22 AM | #3700
I find it sad that unqualified gamers, some of which who really don't know much about technology nor pretend to, have better reasoning skills than Bioware and EA who made this decision. Honestly, when the community of gaming people is making better choices and far more logical ones than those that are supposed to be 'qualified' something is wrong.

If we wanted to play with greater populations, we would have bought the game three months earlier and played in US servers. We'd be used to them by now.

If we wanted to play with greater populations after we bought the game, we would have created our characters there rather than on Asia Pacific servers.

Instead, we made our characters on Asia Pacific Servers because we love the people there and some of us actually LIKE the quiet populations as opposed to being surrounded. I have a Guild (Run one, actually) so that we don't have to worry about queues and waits.

It's why we're a community. Clearly, Bioware/EA, you don't understand the concept of the word.

We Asia Pacific People have a friendly community, knowing each other and having great conversations without much rudeness. Tonight, I went to the Harbinger and was savaged by foreigners after informing them I was Australian. Apparently "We don't belong there." Funnily enough, We agree.

I went to The Harbinger to see what it would be like. Instantly I suffered lag when I stepped onto Korriban of all places. On Dalborra, Korriban flows as smoothly as a river, completely lag free. On the Harbinger every ten seconds or so the game would jump. I can just imagine that in an Op or Warzone...

Speaking in a majority, most players have clearly wanted to either merge all of the Asia Pacific servers together, or even just leave them as they are as opposed to this ridiculous server transfer. So why not win public favour, Bioware? Rejuvenate your game and earn the support of your subscribers and players.

If you manage to not to do this we'll be happy. Some have unsubscribed. If this is about server populations, you've actually put a dent in them rather than increase them with this idea.

We beg you, as an Asia Pacific Community, RECONSIDER. Change!
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