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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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oakamp
02.06.2013 , 11:35 PM | #2511
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
You know what, a lot of that is because of the type of people playing here. I like the end game stuff in this game, but I'm not busting my gut to do it. I'm happy trucking along where I am, as are a lot of people.

not everyone is keen on doing hardcore raiding which is what this content requires. Yes you do have to spend the money and get your gear augmented, yes you do need to have a certain level of gear. A lot of people just aren't up for that.
lol, hardcore?
how long has nim ec been released?
at last year, we can down few bosses in the 1st day with a PUG,
but now, average PUG even wipe at sm ops!!!!!!
how is that happen?
because average players are gone,
now only casual players remain, they like swtor's story, but they didn't learn how to pve when they lv up,
and BW don't wanna let endgame gears drop at lowbie hm fps,
that is one of the reasons why 1.7mil subs gone,
because it is neither casual nor hardcore,
but rest ppl who like REPEATED stories still love this game.
English is not my first language, still working on it.

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MyPetMonkey
02.06.2013 , 11:46 PM | #2512
Quote: Originally Posted by darthnish View Post
lmao . id say some people dont like change, shes clearly one of them. Im sure if transfers were opened and no merges , shed be the only one left in gav daragon
Just to run a 24man on Gav Daragon would need 10% of a factions online population to participate. It's not even about end game raiding... It's about Heroic 4 quests, **** its about Heroic 2 quests. On some planets there aren't even enough there to do that!

But it's okay, we just have to play like Ailie.... and her timetable/schedule... of which the reason she doesn't have time to do everything... IS BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG TO FIND ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING WITH.

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Lucas_Sorrell
02.07.2013 , 12:37 AM | #2513
Soooo I don't post her often because, well let's face it, there is a general opinion and anything said to the contrary is brutally rejected in a childish manner as it's often accompanied with personal insults aimed to belittle anyone who speaks out as I'm sure this post will also receive the same treatment.

It's clearly true we don't have as many players as the US and EU servers, no real surprise there. However, as I hear most of the complaints being "We don't have enough to make 50 pvp pop" I feel pretty safe in assuming people aren't checking what 50's are on. If you did, and I do when people in guild complain about no 50 pvp, which is daily, I see enough people at least on the rep side to have a game of rep v rep, more then enough in fact. This tells me that it's not popping because people aren't q'd, probably because they don't want to PvP. I don't see this as an issue, we're an RP server, if people don't want to PvP it's hardly a reason for a merge. This also extends to PvE, if **** doesn't pop, it's not 'always' and I say always cause we do have dead times, mostly early mornings and early afternoons from what I've seen but I rant. It's not always a lack of numbers, it's people's choice not to PvE or PvP for whatever reason, but it's not a lack of numbers, quite often, especially during peek times for our time zone, there are a lot of 50's and tone of sub 50's online, they simply aren't qing for either.

Anywho, that's what I've seen as someone who up until about two days ago was one from about 10am till 5-6am with a few breaks in between.

I think I've said it before, I feel a merge would give us a pop similar to US servers, but it'd ruin the game for RPers, considering we get griefed for RPing on an RP server I don't see mixing us with PvPers and PvEers helping. That aside, numbers we lack sure, but not enough to make the game unplayable, well at least not for me as I never have trouble getting something going, unless people are in PvP.

I think that's about it, have fun with the slandering and abuse.
As an old friend once said... "Score one for the Republic."

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Ailie
02.07.2013 , 12:45 AM | #2514
Quote: Originally Posted by MyPetMonkey View Post
Just to run a 24man on Gav Daragon would need 10% of a factions online population to participate. It's not even about end game raiding... It's about Heroic 4 quests, **** its about Heroic 2 quests. On some planets there aren't even enough there to do that!

But it's okay, we just have to play like Ailie.... and her timetable/schedule... of which the reason she doesn't have time to do everything... IS BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG TO FIND ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING WITH.
Seriously whatever problem you have with me just get over it. You're only digging yourself an even greater hole by making yourself look like a not so nice person.

Btw, there are people there, perhaps they just don't want to play with you?
Meh...

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Evgen
02.07.2013 , 01:05 AM | #2515
It's true I guess, you really only do need 32 people on the server to do everything.
Just have to all arrange to be on at the same time and do the same thing. Or you could have 1000 people and do whatever you want whenever you want to!
People have been making efforts to make the game playable, but when someone goes on holiday, and someone else takes a break, it has a big effect. BECAUSE THE POPULATION IS SO SMALL.
Well, in any case, the majority of the people on APAC are for a server merge. I'm sure transfers will precede/follow, so any sensitive RPers can transfer to a US RP server.
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Ailie
02.07.2013 , 01:16 AM | #2516
Quote: Originally Posted by Evgen View Post
Or you could have 1000 people and do whatever you want whenever you want to!
That's really not quite true, you could have 1000 people on a server and still not get to do anything above what's available on Group Finder. Just go to any populated WoW server and try get into a top end raid. It's tough, because people don't like to take PUGs. Same thing here, which is why a lot of people don't like using the GF.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be great to have more people, it would, but it won't necessarily solve the problems people are having if they don't play along with what the rest of the server is doing. That is, if you want to get into large group content, you need to join a guild that's doing it. It's like this for any MMO.

People wishing to stick to themselves are always going to have issues getting into end game and that's nobody's fault but their own.
Meh...

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Lucas_Sorrell
02.07.2013 , 01:38 AM | #2517
Quote: Originally Posted by Evgen View Post
so any sensitive RPers can transfer to a US RP server.
Assuming from this comment that you're not an rper or here for the rp... why be on an RP server?
As an old friend once said... "Score one for the Republic."

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iheartnyc
02.07.2013 , 01:59 AM | #2518
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
That's really not quite true, you could have 1000 people on a server and still not get to do anything above what's available on Group Finder. Just go to any populated WoW server and try get into a top end raid. It's tough, because people don't like to take PUGs. Same thing here, which is why a lot of people don't like using the GF.
Reroll on Harbinger. See how long it takes you to find a random pug OP group or PvP team. Maybe you won't get into a "top end raid", but you will get into one. I'm sure RPers are nice people, but really, some of you seem very out of touch with reality. Populations are fine enough to do the content? You may be right, but that is not the issue. The issue is the quality of our playtime.

Higher populations mean:
1) Higher frequency of interactions and pops, meaning you can spend more time playing rather than looking for people to play with
2) Higher quality of interactions because you can interact with a much wider base of players
3) Higher level of skill, because you're not playing the same 10 people everytime, you learn new things from a wider base of skillsets and abilities
4) A slew of other benefits, e.g., people to help you on out on the fly for minor quests/datacrons, better economy, access to more items on GTN, etc. etc.

The APAC servers are a disaster.

And I can tell you exactly why the situation is the way that it is. Some people at Bioware pitched to their bosses the need for APAC servers. The bosses reluctantly said OK, but it's on you if it fails. Nobody wants to tell the bosses, "hey, we made a mistake here, we need to merger them now." This has nothing to do with "studying the situation" or "the servers are actually doing fine." They're not. Bioware is putting their jobs and livlihood ahead of the desires of the APAC player base. Nothing wrong with that. All we're left to do is deal with it, unsub, or reroll.

By the way, we've been asking for mergers/transfers since July of last year.

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Marshal_Ney
02.07.2013 , 02:05 AM | #2519
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
How are you having trouble on Gav? Trouble with what?

Gav population is pretty good, biggest problem I have is that people just don't use the GF system. That's not because of low pop, that's just people not queueing up and waiting for pre-made groups.
Obviously you never played in a populated server,i have 2 level 50 on Red Eclipse,a European server.
And when i login on Gav Daragon in a prime time between 19:30 to 22:30 p.m i can find a max of 32 people on Repubblic Fleet,then when i login on Red Eclipse at their prime time there are at least 3 instances in the RF
Said so,i'm European but i live in Japan,so for me it would be better to play in an APAC server,but the paradox is that when i login on gav Daragon i'm never able to do easily simple WZ or FP to don't mention OPs.
but if i login on Red Eclipse at 20:00 p.m where i live,which is 12:00 p.m there (11:00 in the UK) i can see over 100 ppl on RF,and FPs WZ and even OPs are easier to do.
So you see? There is something wrong indeed with the 3,APAC servers.
as for me at this point i would prefer to transfer my character from Gav to Red Eclipse,as an alternative a merge would also be good,but to deny that Gav Daragon like in the other 2 APAC/O server things are not so bad as it seems,it's incorrect for sure.
I think the Gav Daragon comunity is really awesome and we always try to help each other,but the good will of a few people can't give us a full experience in game like in the EU/US server.
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with the potential of a superman,I'm living on"

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iheartnyc
02.07.2013 , 02:10 AM | #2520
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
Seriously whatever problem you have with me just get over it. You're only digging yourself an even greater hole by making yourself look like a not so nice person.

Btw, there are people there, perhaps they just don't want to play with you?
Playing the "nice person" card on an online forum is ridiculous. In fact, ad hominem attacks on an online forum (especially passive aggressive ones such as your "look like a not so nice person") makes me inclined to think you're kind of an unpleasant person in real life. See what I did there, Ms. Nice Lady?