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Jarlgon
09.18.2012 , 08:42 PM | #31
we need to worry. America is full of people who are stupid enough to believe Scorpienne. Those numbers she turns out are only based on the loads for the NA servers. The APAC servers have a lower max concurrent population then the NA servers.

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KindlyOne
09.18.2012 , 09:10 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpienne View Post
TL;DR = Dalborra and Gav Daragon are fine. Master Dar'Nala is lower population and should be merged with some other PvP server.

This is how the pop of the three APAC servers compares to the average server of their types, and versus SWTOR overall. These numbers represent the portion of players left compared to 6/27/2012. So for instance SWTOR overall has about 20% less logins than a couple months ago. Master Dar'Nala is only about 58% of what it was a couple of months ago - it's lost about 42% of it's population. (Link to how I got these numbers HERE.)

% of 6/27 population
All SWTOR servers 80%

All PvE 80%
Dalborra 82%

All RP PvE 99%
Gav Daragon 92%

All PvP 65%
Master Dar'Nala 58%


Dalborra is actually doing a tiny bit *better* than other PvE servers. Gav Daragon is doing a bit worse than other RP-PvE servers, because it's "only" at 92% of it's post transfer load, but that' means it's doing great!

Master Dar'Nala has lost a lot of people... more than even other PvP servers.


Paige
Oh, please don't say that.

I thought TOR status only gets a rough estimate of those numbers. I checked that website to find out how they were getting their figures and it's from SWTOR's server page, which just gives Light, Medium, Heavy, and Very Heavy readings. I was hoping they'd provide more information about how they get those numbers but that was all I could find.

I can only go by my own experience on Gav Daragon.

From the starting planets to Coruscant, it was okay to find groups for Heroics.
From Taris to Tatooine, I started missing out on the heroics because the number of people had dropped considerably. Taris had around 30ish people on average, still doable with that many. But Nar Shaddaa and Tatooine were as low as half that. Still fine. Got some heroics done.
Then I hit Aldaraan, Quesh, Balmorra and the population took a dive. Most of the time, we were under 10 people on the planet. One time, I was shocked because we had 9 people on Balmorra.
It got worse when I reached Hoth and Belsavis. Just 3-4 people on the planet.
Voss and Corellia? I spent most of my time on Voss being the only person there. I had stopped doing heroics since Aldaraan.

I used to ask myself why would Bioware put so many Heroic 4s on the later planets when there's hardly anyone around to group with.

This was on Gav Daragon, during the height of its population, back in April/May. I've wanted to quit the game many times since I hit level 50 because it's just been so frustrating. I'm just hanging on in the hope that we might get a server merge at some point.

It could all be perception and bad luck. But I'm just hoping that's all it is, that Gav Daragon is suffering from low population woes. If Gav Daragon is fine, then it's time to move on.
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Jarlgon
09.18.2012 , 09:16 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by KindlyOne View Post
Oh, please don't say that.

I thought TOR status only gets a rough estimate of those numbers. I checked that website to find out how they were getting their figures and it's from SWTOR's server page, which just gives Light, Medium, Heavy, and Very Heavy readings. I was hoping they'd provide more information about how they get those numbers but that was all I could find.

I can only go by my own experience on Gav Daragon.

From the starting planets to Coruscant, it was okay to find groups for Heroics.
From Taris to Tatooine, I started missing out on the heroics because the number of people had dropped considerably. Taris had around 30ish people on average, still doable with that many. But Nar Shaddaa and Tatooine were as low as half that. Still fine. Got some heroics done.
Then I hit Aldaraan, Quesh, Balmorra and the population took a dive. Most of the time, we were under 10 people on the planet. One time, I was shocked because we had 9 people on Balmorra.
It got worse when I reached Hoth and Belsavis. Just 3-4 people on the planet.
Voss and Corellia? I spent most of my time on Voss being the only person there. I had stopped doing heroics since Aldaraan.

I used to ask myself why would Bioware put so many Heroic 4s on the later planets when there's hardly anyone around to group with.

This was on Gav Daragon, during the height of its population, back in April/May. I've wanted to quit the game many times since I hit level 50 because it's just been so frustrating. I'm just hanging on in the hope that we might get a server merge at some point.

It could all be perception and bad luck. But I'm just hoping that's all it is, that Gav Daragon is suffering from low population woes. If Gav Daragon is fine, then it's time to move on.
Gav Daragon is a dead server now. I was on there from day 1 of the servering going live. It took a dive with 1.2 then another at 1.3 (less of one then 1.2) now it has had its biggest dive in population

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KindlyOne
09.18.2012 , 09:31 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Jarlgon View Post
Gav Daragon is a dead server now. I was on there from day 1 of the servering going live. It took a dive with 1.2 then another at 1.3 (less of one then 1.2) now it has had its biggest dive in population
I'm willing to accept that it could all be just my own perception that the server is dying.

For me, I've just seen friends stop logging on, one by one. And it feels like that because of that.
But I've also seen new people coming on, new level 50s. But nowadays that just makes me feel old and tired.

In truth, I don't have the numbers to say if the APAC servers are dying. I'd like to think that they are dying because it means that something might be done about it. All I've got to go by is my personal experience playing this game and the hope that it'll get better. Once that hope dies, I leave.
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"There's but three Furies found in spacious hell;
But in a great man's breast three thousand dwell."
The White Devil, Act IV, Scene iii.

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Scorpienne
09.18.2012 , 09:35 PM | #35
Rarely have I been lambasted so thoroughly for doing math. I've published and linked my methods. I have always been willing to consider anyone else's method that seems better. (In fact, the current method is definitely a joint logical effort of several contributors.)

So, no worries then men. Carry on. I shall not burden the APAC server issue with data further. You are quite passionate about the subject, and are not interested in sweet reason.


Paige

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Jarlgon
09.18.2012 , 09:37 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by KindlyOne View Post
I'm willing to accept that it could all be just my own perception that the server is dying.

For me, I've just seen friends stop logging on, one by one. And it feels like that because of that.
But I've also seen new people coming on, new level 50s. But nowadays that just makes me feel old and tired.

In truth, I don't have the numbers to say if the APAC servers are dying. I'd like to think that they are dying because it means that something might be done about it. All I've got to go by is my personal experience playing this game and the hope that it'll get better. Once that hope dies, I leave.
I remember Gav Daragon having nearly 200 on Rep fleet in late March. Now its around 50 at peak times (at best) what have you noticed?

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KindlyOne
09.18.2012 , 10:27 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpienne View Post
Rarely have I been lambasted so thoroughly for doing math. I've published and linked my methods. I have always been willing to consider anyone else's method that seems better. (In fact, the current method is definitely a joint logical effort of several contributors.)

So, no worries then men. Carry on. I shall not burden the APAC server issue with data further. You are quite passionate about the subject, and are not interested in sweet reason.


Paige
Thank you for putting in the time. I don't doubt your math, but I'd like to ask about the reliability of the numbers. If it's from TOR status, how does TOR status get the number of concurrent logins? Do they set up /who queries on each server every hour? Cause if they do that, then yes, definitely I'd feel a lot better about those numbers.

Let's look at your numbers. (We'll assume the that source is reliable.)

APAC servers have suffered less of a decline than US servers (except for Master Dar'Nala.)
Yet APAC servers are still at the bottom of the list for population.

That seems to support my perception of Gav Daragon being under populated.

Now the gist of your post was to state that APAC servers haven't suffered a decline in population (except for Master Dar'Nala.) But that doesn't mean they're fine because the experience for players on them is still bad, and has been bad for a while now.

If a server with a population of ten people gets five new players. That would be an increase of 50% in numbers. But the game experience for every one on that server would still be horrible.
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"There's but three Furies found in spacious hell;
But in a great man's breast three thousand dwell."
The White Devil, Act IV, Scene iii.

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KindlyOne
09.18.2012 , 10:37 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Jarlgon View Post
I remember Gav Daragon having nearly 200 on Rep fleet in late March. Now its around 50 at peak times (at best) what have you noticed?
Sorry. Can't help you there.

I've never noticed Republic Fleet having anywhere close to those numbers on Gav Daragon. I have noticed that at release in March, Tython and Korriban had about 90-110 players. Ord Mantell and Hutta had about half that. So it is possible that your memory is right.

I think that people are still hanging on to Gav Daragon. Even up to a two weeks ago, I was still seeing new level 50s appearing. But I've known a lot of names that don't log on anymore as well.

I can't tell if Gav Daragon is losing people, but it sure can feel that way.
I can say that Gav Daragon's population, even if it isn't losing people, feels entirely too small.
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"There's but three Furies found in spacious hell;
But in a great man's breast three thousand dwell."
The White Devil, Act IV, Scene iii.

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Cheezfriend
09.18.2012 , 11:08 PM | #39
Regardless of how these numbers have been generated, the simple fact is:

The APAC servers are dead. Bioware knows exactly how many active players are on the servers and only they can fix this issue for us, the longer they ignore the community and our population issues, the worse the problem is going to get.

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SunfirePhenix
09.19.2012 , 01:44 AM | #40
I myself like to participate in PVE and PVP, at this stage of my game i have completed all the PVE content apart from hardmode kephess... i like to play PVP aswell so i do not restrict myself to one side of the game as i would b definately bored...

im real sick of people posting things like "PVPr's should b on a PVP server" or "PVE's should be on a PVE server" bcos there are some (im sure alot) of us out there who like to do both! but anyway... Im all for transfers/merges/consolidation because in both PVE/PVP aspects on my server, population is lacking to have constant POPS... GF is non existent and the PVP queue is also slow... We struggle to pull our team together for HM EC and it has gotten worse with time...

Hurry up and merge us, and at least tell us when something is gunna be done
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