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think gunsligners got screwed companion wise

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think gunsligners got screwed companion wise

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happysister
09.08.2012 , 07:49 PM | #11
Corso took my gunslinger all the way to lvl 50. i didn't need/use anyone else. he could take the beating and hold the agro i needed him to, and i did the DPS he needed me to. only started using Guss once i started doing lvl 50 dailies so he could heal heroics my guardian friend and i would duo. plus it got easier to gear him up than it was to gear Corso as Guss just used my hand me downs.
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Gassygunslinger
09.08.2012 , 09:04 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by happysister View Post
Corso took my gunslinger all the way to lvl 50. i didn't need/use anyone else. he could take the beating and hold the agro i needed him to, and i did the DPS he needed me to. only started using Guss once i started doing lvl 50 dailies so he could heal heroics my guardian friend and i would duo. plus it got easier to gear him up than it was to gear Corso as Guss just used my hand me downs.
Eeeeh.... The "tank" companions are kind of a joke. I've found that as a Gunslinger, a healer companion ultimately tanks better than they do, because they can replenish their own health and have access to a CC. Endgame, with Guss I can start combat with a group of enemies (BH district), go get a beer, and come back to find all the enemies dead. Guss can heal the both of us very well, while dishing out a fair amount of damage to boot.

Given that tank companions have only marginally better defenses than damage companions, having our first two companions be "tank" companions seems a bit of a waste.
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happysister
09.08.2012 , 10:53 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Gassygunslinger View Post
Given that tank companions have only marginally better defenses than damage companions, having our first two companions be "tank" companions seems a bit of a waste.
eeeeh, i tried all the companions, and Corso was the beefiest as far as defenses went. Akaavi and Risha were too squishy for my taste. not to mention i was always out DPSing them and pulling all the agro. Bowdaar surprised me with how squishy he was too when i first got him. healer companions only heal well if you gear them well, and as i didn't start gearing Guss until end game, Corso was my best option as he was the only companion i bothered to gear up to that point. i actually did better fighting elites with Corso than i did with Guss pre-end game. but yeah, that's just me.
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Gassygunslinger
09.08.2012 , 11:56 PM | #14
I really, really, really tried to give my tank companions the best chance of success. I set them up with the best endgame gear I could, making sure they'd have the best possible ability to tank, but I've found they're just a temporary meatshield. While for healer classes it is an entirely different case (the little bit of defensive bonus and aggro grabbing goes long ways if you're looking for something to tank a champion), as a Gunslinger, Corso and Bowdaar are simply slowing down the countdown to destruction. A healer companion can reset the clock. True, a companion can never truly match a player in healing ability, they can at least make a competent stand in. A tank companion conversely loses out on a huge amount of tank buffs.

Running two-man CtS (4-man heroic) I've heard a lot of "I've got a good healer companion", but never "I've got a really good tank companion". At endgame, a fantastic tank companion is no match for a great healer companion.
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happysister
09.09.2012 , 01:51 PM | #15
actually, a sawbones friend and i almost duoed CtS with Corso tanking. and none of us were in end game gear. the only time we had trouble was at the final boss. it was hard getting him out of the giant aoe attack. i bet we could do it now though seeing how our gear is much, much better.

but you are right. it's usually easier with a human tank and a companion healer. it's also a whole lot easier to find a tank than it is a healer anyways.
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FoolsErrand
09.10.2012 , 08:48 AM | #16
I used Corso as a meat shield until I got Guss. I would die every once in a while, but for the most part Corso did an excellent job as a distraction while I either killed the enemy or ran like hell.
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AlixMV
09.11.2012 , 04:54 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by jedip_enguin View Post
Corso was fantastic early game with the presence bonus from having maxed my trooper companions
Well, that's one way to do it, but not every Gunslinger is going to have that benefit.
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Elkirin
09.11.2012 , 05:01 PM | #18
I turned off all the tank taunt skills and leave them visible down left side of screen, then I use them manually to share the damage between corso and my gunslinger. Usually I took all the early aggro, then let corso take over.

This allowed me to take corso right through. I noticed that the healing companion is effective but not always the most fun. This also worked for my dps sorc/khem val combination all the way to 50 including storyline bosses.

I play 4/4 imp/rep and one of everything, so i try not to use the same type of companion each char..

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Kaisernick
09.11.2012 , 05:06 PM | #19
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People crutch on their healing companions too much.
I almost never use mine on any of my characters.

The only time I whip 'em out if when I'm soloing a heroic or fighting a Champion.

Any other time, a DPS companion serves you way better.


Some people say, "Derrrrrp, well with healer I haz no downtime between mobs."

That may be true. But you spend 50% more time fighting each group of mobs than I do. And it only takes me 2-3 seconds typically to heal up to full.
agreed the only character i use my healer is my knight and just cause i love doc so much.
i use bowdaar on my gunslinger and have never had a problem.

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DarthMat
09.11.2012 , 11:58 PM | #20
I used Corso up until Risha was available. Used her all the way up to 50 with very little problems.