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why is pve gear progression a longer process


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Darth-Rammstein
09.04.2012 , 07:57 PM | #1
I've been pvping since launch and just recently decided to quit wzs and play the other half of the game I neglected to participate in. I noticed pretty quickly that to earn the pve equivalent to the wz gear it takes a heck of a lot longer. Rakata is basically battle master and columi is champion....it took no time at all to gear up in champion or bm especially back when when it was rng bags and you could potentially get a piece free and clear from a single daily bag. Then there's the dailies on Ilum, belsavis, black hole that can take quite a long time to do to buy your relics, implants, ear piece if you want them. I'm not saying progression is bad just that for time invested it would seem that pve gear takes far longer.
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PariahMessiah
09.04.2012 , 08:12 PM | #2
PVP progression involves you being a punching bag when you're on the bottom rung. PVE Progression takes longer as you don't start your carreer wiping on appropiate mobs. (Barring stupidity)

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Khevar
09.04.2012 , 08:17 PM | #3
It depends if you're doing it completely with pugs or if you're in a guild (as well as your relationship with the guild).

One of our long-time guildies rolled a new tank alt. He dinged 50, bought recruit gear then ran HM Ops. Because the rest of the group was already geared, he got most of the drops and was pretty much in full Rakata in just a couple of days.

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Karasuko
09.04.2012 , 08:28 PM | #4
Because you can't start your gear progression at lvl 10.
Take for example this.
I level a new toon, I only pvp with it and I proceed to hit rank 40 by the time i hit lvl 30.
I now have 20 levels worth to hit the 3500 ranked comms mark and the 2k warzone comm mark. I can step into a WH weap and 2 -3 other pieces of gear.

Now if i was to quest and dungeon grind to 50 its a different matter.

That being said with a decent guild its really not hard to fully gear in columi. take 3 guildies that are comfortable with HM LI, try to class stack in your favor (if you are a trooper you want 3 other troopers) then run HM LI till you hvae almost fully geared out. Mix in 2x pvp relics, some implants and an earpiece out of the GTN and you are fully columi'd out with a rakata chest in under 2 hours.

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Chaqen
09.04.2012 , 09:53 PM | #5
I find PvP being a longer gear grind then PvE. I have a level 50 marauder that i leveled up to 50 about 3 to 4 weeks ago, he is BiS besides missing to 2 26 armourings, and hilts for PvE.

PvP wise he has 5 peices of WH, and rest BM... be a bit of time before he is fully WH, and even longer then that to be BiS for PvP.

I will admit that i crafted a bit of gear(something you cant do for pvp) for my marauder, and spent black hole comms that i had stored up on 3 other toons on him with the help of legacy gear. But what i had saved up at the time, was only accumulated in about a month (I run HM EC twice a week, BH/rakghoul weekly on 4 toons,SM EC, and NIM KP, and usually 10 to 12 GF ques a week), i dont think i could of accumulated the same amount of pvp gear for him across my 3 toons spending the same amount of time and effort though.

TL;DR: More toons you run through PvE quicker the process will become

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Chaqen
09.04.2012 , 09:54 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Karasuko View Post
I level a new toon, I only pvp with it and I proceed to hit rank 40 by the time i hit lvl 30.
I now have 20 levels worth to hit the 3500 ranked comms mark and the 2k warzone comm mark. I can step into a WH weap and 2 -3 other pieces of gear.
Did they recently made it where your valor rank could exceed you player level pre level 50?

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Karasuko
09.04.2012 , 09:58 PM | #7
Even if what i described is inaccurate (and it probably is) you still have 10 levels to bank up the comms.

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Chaqen
09.04.2012 , 10:05 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Karasuko View Post
Even if what i described is inaccurate (and it probably is) you still have 10 levels to bank up the comms.
True you do, but have you ever tired to get the last 10 levels in pvp... you have to be very dedicated to pvp to do so :P

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Karasuko
09.04.2012 , 10:06 PM | #9
I know, Thats why i just settle for a BM weap on every new alt and call it quits.If i was a harcore pvper/FOTMN reroller then it would be different.

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AshlaBoga
09.05.2012 , 12:58 AM | #10
You can get full Campaign in less than 1/2 the time it takes you to get full War Hero. Heck, maybe even 1/3rd the amount of time. It only seems longer because of lockouts.
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