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Asia Pacific Servers, something need to be done

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iheartnyc
09.04.2012 , 03:16 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by scullzomben View Post
http://www.torstatus.net/master-darn...la/history/30d

Please, tell me how this is a knee jerk reaction. Guild Wars 2 you say? Population has been barely anything but light the last 30 days. When did GW2 come out? Like, a week ago?

The server was only good between opening and Diablo III. Ever since then the population has had a massive decline.
Lol yeah. The old familiar, "wait and see." I heard that line:

-after 1.2 (a horde of people left due to nerfing of certain classes/imbalanced PvP/pulling of rated at last minute)
-after D3 launched (a horde of people left to play, some came back, but not all)
-after 1.3 (a horde of people left after no new content and fail of rated PvP)
-after GW2 (a horde of people lieft, and we'll see how many come back)

Of these 4 events, GW2 by far has resulted in the most dramatic amount of people leaving. Before, it was individual goodbyes and farewells. With GW2, people didn't even bother saying bye as it was entire guilds leaving together as a group.

The scary thing is, even in-game, people are asking "which GW2 server did your guild transfer to?" as people are looking for the exits.

I will say this about our APAC servers - the sense of community was amazing. GW2 so far has not even come close in feeling like a commuity (sort of like Diablo 3, feels almost like a single player game ATM, kind of like when you're playing a FPS online). Part of this is because the game is so fast-paced, with so many dynamic events popping up everywhere. There's no 1 single path to take, so it's hard to keep groups together on a single quest line. That certainly has some upsides, but does leave you feeling a bit lonely and emptyt at the end

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randalthorr
09.04.2012 , 03:41 AM | #12
EAWARE rep -


* Whats this.... a thread voicing APAC concerns..... skip skip skip



That is how it has been since before the game was launched.
“Equality is a chain, like obedience. Like fear or uncertainty or self doubt.”
-Darth Bane

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Cheezfriend
09.04.2012 , 04:43 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post

-after 1.2 (a horde of people left due to nerfing of certain classes/imbalanced PvP/pulling of rated at last minute)
-after D3 launched (a horde of people left to play, some came back, but not all)
-after 1.3 (a horde of people left after no new content and fail of rated PvP)
-after GW2 (a horde of people lieft, and we'll see how many come back)
As always he sums it up perfectly.... My old old guild <Tempest> disolved due to Diablo 3. My next guild <Onset> pretty much died and went to GW2.

Come on Bioware don't ignore this thread!

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MidichIorian
09.04.2012 , 04:57 AM | #14
They're probably going to sit on open transfers until the coin system is launched. It's sad because I truely hate my current server/faction. If it hadnt been for the millions it would cost me to send my toon on the other faction all my wh/bh mods I could have atleast done that.....but no because they implemented a system that only restricts players. I can't even try out different specs on the dummy for God sake without eventually having to pay 24K'ish to reset it.
Their idea of giving people incentive to play isnt to provide new and challenging content, it's to make the most basic crap as complicated and restricting as possible so that a thing that could have taken 10 secs to finish instead takes days of grinding.

I've been on timecards up until this month but made the mistake of subscribing an extra month through a card payment but that's it. No more! The worst thing is that I'm not even going to move on to a new game, that's how bad it is. This game simply killed itself.

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chaosmadness
09.04.2012 , 07:54 AM | #15
Wooo, too many experts here in math, lol..

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Scorpienne
09.04.2012 , 09:31 AM | #16
Hi, my downunder friends! I'm Paige, the girl with the numbers (LINK to numbers).

TL;DR = Dalborra and Gav Daragon are okay. Master Dar'Nala has experienced a precipitous population decline.

I saw this thread, and I thought I'd look at the change in APAC numbers since I've been monitoring post transfers.

I compared the estimated populations on the APAC servers on 6/27/2012 and 9/4/2012 and then compared that to *average* server size among all the destination servers. So if server X had 1,000 people on average on 6/27 and it had 900 people on average on 9/4 then it's listed as 90% of it's original numbers, which would be a 10% loss in popualation. Here is a LINK to the math (look on the APAC analysis tab).

Server % orig numbers from 6/27
Dalborra 92%
SWTOR Average PvE 91%

Gav Daragon 101%
SWTOR Average RP-PvE 111%

Master Dar'Nala 58%
SWTOR Average PvP 73%

Overall SWTOR grand average 90%

So what I'm seeing here is that Dalborra is doing okay. It's about 92% of it's original numbers (or about an 8% loss in population). That's about standard for what's going on in the game in general.

Gav Daragon has grown a teeny bit (it's 101% of it's original numbers, or a 1% gain). This is less than the average RP-PvE server which has grown about 11% in the last couple of months.

Master Dar'Nala has gotten whacked. It's 58% of it's original numbers, which is a loss of 42% of it's population. PvP servers in general have shrunk about 27%... but Master Dar'Nala is really hurting. In fact, it's the *only* destination server since the start of post-transfer monitoring that has had a phi = 1. That's critical because I can't really estimate the pop of a server with a phi equal to or less than 1.

HEre's what the PvP servers look like...

PvP Server Area % orig
Darth Nihilus EUR French 92%
Jar'Kai Sword EUR German 86%
The Bastion US West 77%
The Fatman US East 70%
Prophecy of the Five US East 67%
Tomb of Freedon Nadd EUR English 62%
Master Dar'Nala APAC 58%

So... I think when we're talking about "something must be done" for APAC servers... Gav Daragon and Dalborra are doing about as well as can be expected. The more fruitful discussion is "what is going on with Master Dar'Nala?"


Paige

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scullzomben
09.04.2012 , 05:01 PM | #17
Wow, that's some serious numbers. Thanks for the input.

So, in just over 2 months, our server has lost 42% of its population. Can we please get a merge with Dalborra.

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randalthorr
09.04.2012 , 07:09 PM | #18
Yeah i was opposed to merging pvp servers with pve previously. But I suppose with the way bioware ignores world pvp, it doesn't really matter. I mean, if your a world pvp fan, you have already left or close to unsubbing or unsubbed with a few days of forum privilege like me.
“Equality is a chain, like obedience. Like fear or uncertainty or self doubt.”
-Darth Bane

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scullzomben
09.04.2012 , 08:11 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by randalthorr View Post
Yeah i was opposed to merging pvp servers with pve previously. But I suppose with the way bioware ignores world pvp, it doesn't really matter. I mean, if your a world pvp fan, you have already left or close to unsubbing or unsubbed with a few days of forum privilege like me.
I'm not quite sure if it would be possible, but why not give each zone two phases by defualt? One where it is an automatic PvP flag, and one where it is not.

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Scorpienne
09.04.2012 , 08:39 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by scullzomben View Post
Wow, that's some serious numbers. Thanks for the input.
You're welcome! I prefer talking solid numbers. There's a certain element of "the sky is falling" that is better off with a little quantitative analysis.

Paige