This game could learn from SWG

Oh there is most definitely something wrong with it.

I resubbed for a month and got every single piece of gear I wanted (full campaign, BIS mods from bh gear and BIS armorings for my belt and bracers) and had nothing else left to do other than roll another alt in a dull lifeless world.

This is Star Wars lite for noobs.



Its hello kitty island adventures with lightsabers.

No meaningful world pvp, hell barely world pvp at all. Space combat is a joke. Who wants to roll 7 alts? Oops already done that, and main has all the gear I could ever want until TFB.

Lets face it Bioware dropped the ball here, and tbh SWG was more fun

Did SWG go free to play in under a year?

Didnt think so buddy.

. Say it sucks all you want and claim it was a niche game(lmao, it dominated EQ in its day when the entire market held less than 2 million players swg had over 300k)

The point is This game, if it can be called that even though its not fun, is a turd in comparison.

Swg was the first game with /dance

The swg team spawned patents that were used in the industry for years when they wrote the code for it.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=rNaOAAAAEBAJ
http://www.google.com/patents?id=otaOAAAAEBAJ
http://www.google.com/patents?id=o9aOAAAAEBAJ

Did bioware have anything like this to show for all of its work?

Oh thats right, Bioware didnt even write the code for their own engine, they bought the craptacular hero engine licence, and it cost them a whopping 75000 dollars to do so. http://www.heroengine.com/heroengine/licensing-options/.

Half of the VO touted in this game to be so ground breaking is in an alien language that is recycled over and over.


This game is pale even in comparison to any Bioware game released pre EA aquisition.

The game is too easy, the storylines are lackluster at best with not a single arch among all classes, and dont go saying that its impossible to make meaningful story archs in an mmo. This was pure greed to get the game out faster.

So continue on in your quest to try and deface the swg memory and cling to your sinking phailboat as long as you can.

Good luck ever seeing the 8 year mark before sunset.

Hey buddy, it was 2999 on the server............
Until I logged in......

/fistbump

the ships pretty much ARE instanced housing... I'm sure BW could throw in some fluff modifications for them tho or maybe a minigame or something so people actually have a reason to go to other's ships

I don't really care about housing because in general it's not used all that much by most people even in games that have it...

now customizable guild ships on the other hand would be nice...

Player housing would need to be instanced as we do not have the free form terrain generation of a sandbox game. That would be fine imo however the ability to do somethig with that house, ala decorating would be essential. I just like somewhere to show off trophies and loot and such however some players will happily spend hours decorating a player house....it was a very much underestimated feature of another game that I will not mention.

Driz

Oh I agree. TOR's planets aren't large enough to accomodate Player Cities but instanced player housing (Drommund Kaas/Coruscant) would be doable imo.

Different style 'appartments' from student shack to penthouse

Rift has recently announced it's Player Housing update and it looks like something TOR could manage.
http://www.riftjunkies.com/2012/08/1...using-in-rift/

Responses in teal..

The numbers don't lie thats right.

In a global market not exceeding 2 million at swgs launch, it held 300k subscribers.


This game, however, has under 500k subscribers in a market that now has 100 million potential customers.

A grain of sand in an ocean of lawl.

And also these numbers dont lie, swtor ftp in under a year, while swg charged for all 8 of its years.

Unless you share your source.. Your numbers are fictional.. Simple as that..

QFT...This is my point entirely.

You want to talk about features, and then bring a game with almost no mentionable features into the argument.

Let me put all of this into perspective for you friend.
Im in my 30's I was playing online roleplaying games when the grandfathers of this genre were working for free moderating the text muds I played.

Ive seen the rise of every major release in the western market, and ive seen the fall where applicable. (everything other than wow and eve)
this game is lackluster at best. It launched with no features at all, other than a poorly executed raid, and about 15 flashpoints.

Here is what it offers in the way of entertaining me on a month to month basis thus earning my sub.

3 operations.
A few boring space maps ala star fox.
a few warzones that are pointless after the gear grind.
Sitting on the fleet watching people troll.
Rolling 7 alts.

You think were all spoiled by wow eh? That we should just wait here and pay while Bioware slowly makes the game pay to win, and releases barely any content for us to do.

This game is a vertical progression game, and the vertical progression takes a month at best, unless you cant find a guild, and at that point you are even more bored than I am.

What did swg offer for us to do?

It allowed us to swim an a seemingly endless universe of chaotic emergence. We were allowed to make our own story, and thus entertain ourselves in the world they created.

It was not static, it was not stale, and it certainly wasn't lifeless.

Every month I paid for it was money that sony earned.

I wouldnt give Bioware half of the credit I do sony in that regard and I hate sony.

For myself, my wife, and most of my guild, paying Bioware a monthly fee is literally equivalent to burning money, wasting it, it would be better spent giving it away to a homeless person.

I have never felt more ripped off in my life in reguards to a monthly gaming service.

Which is why the game will go Free To Play this year.

This game isnt a worthy successor to SWG, hell its not even a worthy successor to kotor.