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Top Marauders Don't Use Marauder Gear, BioWare, Time for a Change

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Top Marauders Don't Use Marauder Gear, BioWare, Time for a Change

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Reek
08.31.2012 , 07:42 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by JahXIII View Post
No offense, but you really have no argument here at all, and even if you try building an argument for this topic it will only appear very childish to expect everything to be catered and served directly by the developers.
Yes you're totally right. It's absolutely ridiculous to expect Marauders to be wearing Marauder gear. Rather, every new Marauder should know, somehow, that it's actually Juggernaut and Sorcerer gear that they should be grinding.

I don't expect everything to be served up on a plate to us from the devs. But I truly don't think the developers know how poorly optimized their gear is. And yes, it's for all classes, but Mara is my main so I figured that's where I'd start (and I don't think they really read anything in the PvP forum).. Does BioWare really know that their Marauders are all using Juggernaut gear? These are the people who thought riding circles around Ilum collecting boxes was a good idea for end-game PvP gear, so I am not going to make the assumption that they already know the information I presented in this topic.
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Voxx_Voltaare
08.31.2012 , 09:42 PM | #12
Not too concerned about it, although I'm guess I'm lucky that I learned about the vindicator swap before I hit 50 on my mara. I planned on using the custom gear outfit I had settled on when leveling anyway, so I'm only suffering through getting my recruit gear replaced for now.

What I don't understand is why the 4-piece set bonus is tied to the shell for BM and to the armor mod for WH.

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Xerain
09.01.2012 , 12:19 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Voxx_Voltaare View Post
Not too concerned about it, although I'm guess I'm lucky that I learned about the vindicator swap before I hit 50 on my mara. I planned on using the custom gear outfit I had settled on when leveling anyway, so I'm only suffering through getting my recruit gear replaced for now.

What I don't understand is why the 4-piece set bonus is tied to the shell for BM and to the armor mod for WH.
Because originally it was tied to the piece of armor and I don't think they expected to be doing this.

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Huggsnotdruggs
09.01.2012 , 12:28 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Reek View Post
Yes you're totally right. It's absolutely ridiculous to expect Marauders to be wearing Marauder gear. Rather, every new Marauder should know, somehow, that it's actually Juggernaut and Sorcerer gear that they should be grinding.

I don't expect everything to be served up on a plate to us from the devs. But I truly don't think the developers know how poorly optimized their gear is. And yes, it's for all classes, but Mara is my main so I figured that's where I'd start (and I don't think they really read anything in the PvP forum).. Does BioWare really know that their Marauders are all using Juggernaut gear? These are the people who thought riding circles around Ilum collecting boxes was a good idea for end-game PvP gear, so I am not going to make the assumption that they already know the information I presented in this topic.
New marauder? grinding warhero? ebay much?

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Things change, deal with it.
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Yeah bro, cuz objectives are for suckers. Wizards vs barbarians is where it's at
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I suggest they make a new forum called, "The QQ Forum"

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Reek
09.01.2012 , 09:59 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Huggsnotdruggs View Post
New marauder? grinding warhero? ebay much?
That's just a weird accusation right there.

Do you really not understand my opinion that Marauders should be in Marauder gear instead of Jug/Sorc gear? I mean it makes perfect sense to me, I don't understand why so few of you apparently get it. Should I draw a picture? Would that make it easier to understand?

For the record, no, I'm not ebay. Been playing the game for over a year now since beta.
Reyk / Reekx / Daemen / Iyapo
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JahXIII
09.01.2012 , 10:39 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Reek View Post
I don't expect everything to be served up on a plate to us from the devs. But I truly don't think the developers know how poorly optimized their gear is. And yes, it's for all classes, but Mara is my main so I figured that's where I'd start (and I don't think they really read anything in the PvP forum).. Does BioWare really know that their Marauders are all using Juggernaut gear? These are the people who thought riding circles around Ilum collecting boxes was a good idea for end-game PvP gear, so I am not going to make the assumption that they already know the information I presented in this topic.
You ignored or probably just forgot to quote the most insightful part of my post.

Quote: Originally Posted by JahXIII View Post
Why should it be the best gear for Marauders? those should only act as a guideline and from there you go playing around with gears and so on.
It is no where stated that the Purchasable Marauder PVP gear is the best gear for Marauders. with that being said I for one would loose interest in a game if I knew from the get go that the best EQ could be bought from the NPC right under everyone's nose.

As I stated in my quote the Marauder PVP gear should act only as a guideline, those gears should be one of the target gears for new players, that should keep them motivated and get an idea of what to target, and as they level (and max out) and log in more game time they will be knowledgeable enough about the game to start exploring best gear options on their own.

I know the gaming community has changed over the decade, but i did not expect it to become this one dimensional. I am very disappointed that SWTOR already has labeled PVE gear and PVP gear separately. but this is a topic entirely for a separate debate/thread.

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Xerain
09.01.2012 , 12:59 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Reek View Post
That's just a weird accusation right there.

Do you really not understand my opinion that Marauders should be in Marauder gear instead of Jug/Sorc gear? I mean it makes perfect sense to me, I don't understand why so few of you apparently get it. Should I draw a picture? Would that make it easier to understand?

For the record, no, I'm not ebay. Been playing the game for over a year now since beta.
To be fair...

You can get all the Mod slots you need from marauders head pieces.

The better armorings come from the jugg sets.

and our best Enhancements comr from the sorc gloves.


seriously can we just get a Class vendor that sells the piece of armor with only the ARMORING in it and all the other items they regularly sell then get a vendor that holds all the Mods and Enhancements so it's easier for EVERYONE to BIS their gear for pvp.

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Aluvi
09.02.2012 , 12:32 AM | #18
To the people actually defending poorly itemized gear and supporting specific classes having to do extra grinding to steal mods/enhancements from other classes gear to be competitive..

You're Dumb.

No, really. I've been playing MMOs for a looong time, and I've always been one of those mathcraft/theorycrafter types, so I knew about this quite a while ago, but seriously, 99% of the population is not going to go around to every set bonus and check to see if maybe its so much better than their own that they should get it instead. That's just stupid. The best that can be said about how Bioware itemized the Marauder set is that they didn't put any god awful alacrity on it.

If they did this on purpose to force us to grind more and keep playing longer, then they should at lesat allow us to purchase specific mods/enhancements at a reduced price, rather than having to buy entire pieces of the set.

But I really think that the people claiming Bioware did this on purpose are just giving them far too much credit. Even in WoW, Blizzard devs really have no idea what will be best for each class, and you can tell because at the beginning of each expansion, the itemization on the first tier of that xpacs sets / pvp gear is all over the place. As players figure out what the stat prioritizations are, THEN blizzard corrects it in later patches. I really feel that we should be able to purchase mods/enhancements, lets say 500 wz/ 500 rwz comms per mod/enhance, 1000 of each per armoring. That would at least let smart players pick the correct itemization.
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JamieM
09.02.2012 , 03:19 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
But I really think that the people claiming Bioware did this on purpose are just giving them far too much credit.
BioWare have even made a post or two admitting to the fact that itemization in both PvE and PvP sets was done incorrectly. They screwed up, but apparently they'll be more careful in the future.

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Ooloi
09.08.2012 , 09:25 AM | #20
As a new level 49 marauder, it would be nice if there were someplace I could go and actually look up information on the process once I hit 50.

Like
1) take the token, not the recruit gear
2) take the 3500 ranked warzone comms and 2000 warzone comms I have and buy X, X, and X.
3) use the rest of the recruit money to buy x, x, and x.
4) ......
5) .....
etcetera