Makeb: BW, let me be abundantly clear.

There is a reason that survey was sent asking how much people would pay for Makeb.

That is the most unreasonable thing I have ever heard on these forums. Are you new to the MMO world?

I'll be keeping my sub, tank you. BUT I won't be paying for the next update either. Why not? Well, for one, I don't have any idea how big it will be, and given the track record here to date, "big" is a relative term. Big enough and I'll pay for it, eventually. Once I've gone trough all the current content. I still have several story lines to finish, after all.
But if its small, and buggy and not full of stuff I want... I'll wait. Until its fixed, and cheaper...

This pretty much.

They already mentioned that the subscribers will not pay for any additional content while F2P players have to play to go beyond 50.

Until the last interview where they said "they are definately discussing whether or not to charge the subscribers for Makeb"

Hmmm. That kinda blows.

There's two problems with this:

1. Unless Makeb is HUGE this at best is a micro-expansion (i.e. not an expansion at all, but a bite-sized bit of content designed for the cashshop), if they go that way then there is NO justification for charging a subscription in a F2P game. Subscriptions are for subscription games, with F2P they need to do a VIP thing which is quite a different idea to a subscription.


2. They've all ready said subscriber would get everything, to change that already does NOT bode well for the future. It's the the serial cheating girlfriend/boyfriend telling you that THIS time they won't cheat on you again (when, of course, inevitbably they will). That suggests to me this will be the first in a string of "changes" which ruin the game and gouge anyone daft enough to subscribe (I was likely to subscribe up until reading about this "change" btw).

Learn what? That they contradict themselves...alright I did. But I still think they wont make us pay for it. If they do i will most likely unsub since they leave us with little reason to pay.

It is simple, just like you said, but yet they will not fully commit to that idea even though they originally stated otherwise. It started out with "yes, subscribers will have full access to all content" and now it is "we are not sure if we will charge for certain content".

The game does not seem to be headed towards a sustainable place. The milking may be extreme, many will leave. The only safe way for them to procede without losing a lot more customers, would be to release "paid" content updates that are completely purchasable with the monthly cartel coin allotment. And I mean complete, not 1/4 access to some made up planet.

I can see it now, 500 cartel coins buys you a shuttle pass to Makeb. You complete about 1 level of content, and then find that the native Makebians have constructed a forcefield preventing further progress - you can by a force field disruptor for 500 more coins. You run through another 2 levels, only to make it to their headquarters. They will not let you in without a signed travel document of your factions government 500 more coins. You nearly complete the planet, the force you are fighting goes underground in refuge- you need to purchase a bomb to get through their barricade- 500 more coins, oh wait, your monthly allotment is gone pay money for more coins or wait a month to finish the story.