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Clevelandboy
11.20.2012 , 06:52 PM | #611
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Sweet, now lets look at Rifts new expansion:

Storm Legion:
- Level increase of 10 levels
- 2 new continents that more then triple the size of the game
- New epic stories
- 4 new souls (these are basically classes)
- new quests
- new instant adventures
- new onslaughts
- new rifts
- new dynamic events
- 7 new dungeons
- 3 new raids
- 1 new chronicle (chronicles are similar to those Lotro adventures that you can insta port to and scale to how many people are in your party)
- Join the Hunt: New rift gameplay propels you into battling increasingly-challenging planar bosses
- new mobs and creature types and new dynamic event bosses
- Dimensions (this is their take on personal customizable housing and it looks fantastic. It is not just a hourse but a dimension of the game area that you can completely customize)
- raise in crafting level with new recipes
- New puzzles, artifacts and collectibles, achievements, mounts, pets, titles, and much more

I wont even talk about the entire years worth of free updating they did. It was atleast 5x's the content that ToR put out.
I think we agree on the same thing maybe I just worded it wrong. I hope if they call it an xpack it has more than just 1 planet and a lvl cap increase. See how the race is going to the coins. I hope for a lot more if they want to charge me for it. But I don't see how they would raise the lvl cap with out adding in 3-4 FP and 2-3 raids as well

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 06:52 PM | #612
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Pointless... because it doesn't and never will. Rift is based on shallow and pointless lore, which in and MMO is death as far as I am concerned.
Lol, way to ignore the post and deflect. You know Im right.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Andryah
11.20.2012 , 06:53 PM | #613
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Lotro is Lotro and run by Turbine and WB. ToR is ToR and run by EA and well EA. What happens to you in Lotro is not mutually exclusive to what happens in ToR.
The economics of the business model however are the same. There is only one way to run a freemium business model +/- a narrow margin. Which is why in many respects SWTOR freemium looks and smells very much like LoTROs model, even though they are different game producers.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Andryah
11.20.2012 , 06:54 PM | #614
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Lol, way to ignore the post and deflect. You know Im right.
You are not right. So get over it. Play what you like, I will play what I like. Don't tell me what I do or do not like in an MMO.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 06:54 PM | #615
Quote: Originally Posted by Clevelandboy View Post
I think we agree on the same thing maybe I just worded it wrong. I hope if they call it an xpack it has more than just 1 planet and a lvl cap increase. See how the race is going to the coins. I hope for a lot more if they want to charge me for it. But I don't see how they would raise the lvl cap with out adding in 3-4 FP and 2-3 raids as well
If they add that type of content then I have no problem with them calling it an expansion and charging for it appropriately. If its just 1 planet with 5 levels and some cheesy world story quests then its a ripoff. I dont care if they only charge 10 bucks for it. If it is of the size Im guessing it will be, its no better then free content that they call an expansion to charge for it.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 06:55 PM | #616
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You are not right. So get over it. Play what you like, I will play what I like. Don't tell me what I do or do not like in and MMO.
Im not telling you what you do and dont like in an mmo. Im telling you that you ignored my post, because you know Im right about it but dont want to admit it, and you commented on 1 line of it that you could get away with disagreeing. So as I said, way to defelect and ignore the post.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Andryah
11.20.2012 , 06:57 PM | #617
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Im not telling you what you do and dont like in an mmo.
It was the very first statement in your post... so please stop lying. As for the rest of that post... it was rehash of what you keep saying... nothing to comment on. You necroed up your own tired thread because you want to keep on ranting about what Biowares does with their game. Play it if you like it, play something else if you don't. Rehasing the same tired old rant over and over again is pointless IMO.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Dacce
11.20.2012 , 07:01 PM | #618
EA just made more money in the past week than they have made so far in subs. (well this is not fact, its just speculation but hear me out)

Of the 12 or so people I play the game with, who are all subscribers, more than 1/4 of them have dropped close to a 12 months worth of subs purchasing more cartel coins.

I have also seen many FTP players that have unlocked everything. they have all the pets and every mount. I wonder how much they spent to get that.

EAware have made a truck load on this and they are getting hailed on by all the cartel coins. (I am stealing a daniel tosh reference there) Make it hail!

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 07:03 PM | #619
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
It was the very first statement in your post... so please stop lying. As for the rest of that post... it was rehash of what you keep saying... nothing to comment on.
So you obviously read none of it.... deflecting. You want to come into my thread and speak against what I say but not back any of it up when I call you out.

Go back to your dictionary and find some new lines to use.

Freemium
Strawman
Ad hominem
Hyperbole
Conspiracy
Conjecture

Just about everyone of your posts can be boiled down to you telling someone they are doing those things. Get something new in your routine. EA is not going to give you a hall monitors job.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 07:05 PM | #620
Quote: Originally Posted by Dacce View Post
EA just made more money in the past week than they have made so far in subs. (well this is not fact, its just speculation but hear me out)

Of the 12 or so people I play the game with, who are all subscribers, more than 1/4 of them have dropped close to a 12 months worth of subs purchasing more cartel coins.

I have also seen many FTP players that have unlocked everything. they have all the pets and every mount. I wonder how much they spent to get that.

EAware have made a truck load on this and they are getting hailed on by all the cartel coins. (I am stealing a daniel tosh reference there) Make it hail!
Well theres the proof in the pudding right there. Its funny how they had no time to create any of that content before. Now that they can charge extra for it, they can make it in mass amounts.... all while firing a huge chunk of their staff. Now what does that tell you?
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."