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They are already discussing milking the subscribers

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Urael
11.20.2012 , 11:03 AM | #581
Quote: Originally Posted by XmaceukX View Post
... to charge for races doesn't make it wrong, as you don't need to be any specific race for a certain class, so its nothing more than cosmetic look, i don't class that as content.
It doesn't matter what YOU think content is. EAware considers EVERYTHING content and has stated so. To EAware:
  • Races are content
  • Classes are content
  • Gear is content
  • Ops, WZs, FPs are content
  • etc.

All of which they are indicating that they will introduce from the CC Store.

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 11:07 AM | #582
Quote: Originally Posted by XmaceukX View Post

Who says its not getting any more updates that's just stupid, if people are subscribing they will have to do updates or they will lose all subscribers which is a bad move as they can put subscriber numbers on paper to show they have guaranteed income from them to the share holders rather than just a guesstimate of how many coins will be bought.
Who says the game is losing subscribers, thats ridiculous.
Who says the game is going F2P, thats ridiculous.
Who says they are going to charge for Makeb, thats ridiculous.

I said, thats who. EA will suck people for everything they think they can get away with. They will start small, like with this cathar race and see how people react. Then it will become more and more and more, until they feel they have pushed as far as they can. Thats what EA does. You will get a bone here and there, but I guarentee you, by next year 98% of the content will be cash shop.

Why do you think those 2 doctors, whose entire life was Bioware, up and left? Yeah, they wanted to retire. They were bored of making games. No, they wanted to get away from EA ruining their good name.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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ImperialSun
11.20.2012 , 11:13 AM | #583
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Who says the game is losing subscribers, thats ridiculous.
Who says the game is going F2P, thats ridiculous.
Who says they are going to charge for Makeb, thats ridiculous.

I said, thats who. EA will suck people for everything they think they can get away with. They will start small, like with this cathar race and see how people react. Then it will become more and more and more, until they feel they have pushed as far as they can. Thats what EA does. You will get a bone here and there, but I guarentee you, by next year 98% of the content will be cash shop.

Why do you think those 2 doctors, whose entire life was Bioware, up and left? Yeah, they wanted to retire. They were bored of making games. No, they wanted to get away from EA ruining their good name.
Cathar specifically, how are they sucking anyone dry? Subscribers are free to unlock Cathar using their fee cartel coin award if they want to? Without spending any real world money...

Driz

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 11:38 AM | #584
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
Cathar specifically, how are they sucking anyone dry? Subscribers are free to unlock Cathar using their fee cartel coin award if they want to? Without spending any real world money...

Driz
As I said, this is a small step into larger territory. Its only a matter of time. You will see.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Durasturan
11.20.2012 , 12:22 PM | #585
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
Cathar specifically, how are they sucking anyone dry? Subscribers are free to unlock Cathar using their fee cartel coin award if they want to? Without spending any real world money...

Driz
The fact that subscribers should HAVE to to use a real world currency to purchase anything extra is in itself exploitive. I pay a sub, I should access to all the stuff that sub money was used to create.

They are slowly altering the deal, don't know how you can't see it lol. First it was "subs will get EVERYTHING at no additional cost..."

Then it was "we're really not sure what if anything subs will have to pay for..."

Now there are a whole host of things you HAVE to use real world currency to purchase, and the fact they give you a monthly stipend of enough to purchase HALF of ONE is not a good argument, in fact it shows them as being EVEN MORE EXPLOITIVE AS IF THEY"D GIVEN NONE, because by giving you half you need to buy a piece of armor they are encouraging you to buy 600 more to buy the other half.

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Kyse
11.20.2012 , 12:31 PM | #586
i would hope its more then just a new rock and 5 lvls if they going to charge for it but look at DCUO if u pay 2 play u get them free if i remember right been a long time that i have been on that game lol so we can have hope it is going to be here :P

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Xatasha
11.20.2012 , 12:41 PM | #587
Quote: Originally Posted by MOPSFounder View Post
I have my reasons why I haven't posted anything more happy like rainbows and Candy Land-esque. I do define myself as a SWTOR Analyst and I"m a hater and lover (whether you believe it or not) of SWTOR. Hater for reasons in my "development timeline" thread and lover for personal preferences.

By the way, thanks for following my posts!
I think most of us don't follow your post anymore since you just complain. When I see your Avatar I know it is just another complaint in a long line of complaints. I only noticed this one because I was following the other guy.

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Xatasha
11.20.2012 , 12:42 PM | #588
It has to be one huge planet to let you go from 50 to 55 don't you think?

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Arkerus
11.20.2012 , 12:53 PM | #589
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Lets see how silly it is when you are paying extra for warzone additions and operation additions. This game isnt getting anymore free updates... when you compare to other MMOs, the cost of a subscription, in ToR, gives a much less return as other MMOs do.

Pretty soon, Andryah, you will be defending this game to yourself. There is only so much that people will put up with. If I can buy a car at the northtown chevy dealer for 20 grand fully loaded, why would i go to the southtown chevy dealer and pay 30 grand for the same car, with less options, just because it has a different color and they give me a "free" oil change once a year.
I highly doubt they will charge subs for basic updates to WZs and ops. As evil as the suits may be, even they know not to charge their base subscribers for basic content updates. If they do, I won't come to the forums and whine like some people, ill just drop my sub and walk away.
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Urael
11.20.2012 , 12:53 PM | #590
Quote: Originally Posted by Xatasha View Post
It has to be one huge planet to let you go from 50 to 55 don't you think?
Not really. For instance it is possible to hit tatooine at lvl 25 and leave at level 30 and then hit alderaan at lvl 30 and leave at level 34. Heck I hit Voss at level 45 and left at 50. Makeb is really not going to be much larger than any of the other planets if it's only 5 levels (even scaling for increased exp in the level 50-55 range).