They are already discussing milking the subscribers

Dont bring that argument here its irrelevant. I never payed 1 penny for any update, patch, new raid or dungeon in WoW.
If this Makeb is a xpac then im expecting to find in a store game or on Origin like any statutory game and not been deliver as in-game update. patch whatever you wanna call it.

As for WoW, the mounts and fluff staff are in their store and they are not mandatory into progression of your game. You get that golden looking mount just because you wanna be different and look cooler.

No MMO has ever charged for beta testing like this one has, either.

No MMO ever sank hundreds of millions of dollars into a glorified single-player game with co-op elements only to lose 70% of its subscribers in its first year of operation, either.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: EA is in reclamation mode with TOR. This game is going to be squeezed dry and then dumped. They've gotten rid of almost all of the original Bioware developers and managers, and they've replaced them with no-names - or worse, guys who worked on WAR. That is not a recipe for success, nor even an attempt at one; that's what you do when you want to put the game into maintenance mode in order to suck whatever pennies there may be in the cracks.

Of course subscribers are going to pay for Makeb. Subscribers are going to pay for nearly everything else, too. This "wait and see" approach is completely incomprehensible to anyone who's had any experience with EA in the last five years.

I have to agree with others that I am no longer buying what they "say" because they've "said" a lot of things in the past and changed their minds. So I wouldn't double down on anything they say as gospel anymore.

Once burned, twice shy, and all that jazz.

For those that want to call Makeb an expansion and justify a charge, I point you to what a real expansion comes with: http://stormlegion.riftgame.com/en/ <----thats an expansion, Makeb is an update.

For those that say that 15 bucks a month only covers access to the game, I point you to what 15 bucks a month covers in another MMO : http://www.riftgame.com/en/game/updates/conquest.php <---- all that was free updating, included with your 15 bucks.

You could screenshot it and send it to the BetterBusinessBureau if Bioware ended up lying.

Maybe he put it out there to gauge community interest and see if enough people would be willing to pay ontop of their sub, which I hope they read this thread since the answer is obvious.
Lol at this being an expansion, if it was, EA/BW would be hyping this up like they do best, you could go pre order it from Gamestop and the #1 feature would be progressing class storylines which we know is not happening anytime soon if at all since "it's too expensive".... Really? your just figuring this out now in your marketed story driven mmo?!

As it is we know little to nothing about it, this is a much needed content patch that their even breaking up to deliver over months to attempt to live up to their "monthly content"' updates. We know we get an op next month and a wz possibly the one after, that already feels cheap.

The lies and deception from this company and how they handle their business blows my mind, and Im constantly amazed by people who still eat it up.
It's the ones here that can't see the forest for the trees that leads EA to think this would even be remotely acceptable. It's not.
While fun, this game has plenty of issues but I would unsub in a heartbeat and never look back if they follow through on charging for this.

That's NOT what they are saying in that quote.

They are quite clearly saying (in that quote) that subscribers may be charged extra for it.

Which raise the question of what is the point of subscribing, if you literally have to buy all content anyway.

And they said they're still working out all the details. i.e Everything theyve previously said is subject to change.

So quit speculating and be patient ^^ lord knows someone might actually believe some of the guesses people make.

Yes, "everything is subject to change"........... so that really means we all should have no worries at all about being gouged in the future then doesn't it?.............. oh wait........