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Gamescom Interview with Jeff Hickman about the future of SWTOR

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Gamescom Interview with Jeff Hickman about the future of SWTOR

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Styxx
08.19.2012 , 12:20 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by CorellianWannabe View Post
So raid and warzone gear a tier below the current top end is cool to sell for cash, right? Although the only problem with selling top raid gear would be the cries of raiders who realize just how much time they've wasted getting that gear.

As for being 'owed' Makeb for free, the only thing Bioware has owed you is access to the servers. If you completed all content up to now and choose to keep paying that's all on you.
No it`s not ok. Look up a bit up for the example: cash shop should be, ideally, 2 tiers below max = with WH and Campaign/BH as they are today, Tionese and Recruit should be the max the Cash Shop should sell.

"As for being 'owed' Makeb for free, the only thing Bioware has owed you is access to the servers" - I am paying for access to servers for a reason. I paid under the promise that I will have monthly content. It was not delivered. So it`s time for Bioware to "put up or shut up": if they have the audacity to sell content after all we got in 7 months were one each Op / FP / Wz, then I just might give me access to other servers. Simple really - the onus is on Bioware, to prove that this game is worth a sub, by giving SOME solid content.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello View Post
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Andryah
08.19.2012 , 12:22 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
what I heard was 'We haven't decided whether to charge subscribers for Makeb', when a few months ago it was 'Makeb will not be part of 1.4 but should be available by the end of the year'
Company roadmaps evolve over time, and not just in MMOs. They change things, they change their mind, they adjust to their customer base, etc. etc.

You guys act like there is no opportunity for them to adjust their product plans and road map. When in fact, we have seen plenty of evidence over the last 8 months that they do indeed adjust plans and product roadmpa.

Sounds to me from the interview (with THE business director for this product, the executive producer) like they may be reviewing if they want to use Makeb as the foundation for a paid expansion to me. Since it will have all new story in it, and since they said it was going to be a very large chunk of content, it could very well be that instead of making it part of 1.4, they want to make it larger, and maybe even expand it to the point of being a classic expansion pack.

Of course the negative opinion holders here are going to crucify them no matter what. If they make Makeb larger and the foundation for a true game expansion, you will crucify them for changing their minds and for not releaseing Makeb with 1.4. If they keep to their original plan (and since there was never a formal product announcement, there was no firm commitment by them) for Makeb, then you will crucify them for not releasing enough content.

With the negative opinion crowd on the forums here, there is no win for Bioware. And you wonder why they are careful about communications to you.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Tic-
08.19.2012 , 12:32 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Company roadmaps evolve over time, and not just in MMOs. They change things, they change their mind, they adjust to their customer base, etc. etc.

You guys act like there is no opportunity for them to adjust their product plans and road map. When in fact, we have seen plenty of evidence over the last 8 months that they do indeed adjust plans and product roadmpa.

Sounds to me from the interview (with THE business director for this product, the executive producer) like they may be reviewing if they want to use Makeb as the foundation for a paid expansion to me. Since it will have all new story in it, and since they said it was going to be a very large chunk of content, it could very well be that instead of making it part of 1.4, they want to make it larger, and maybe even expand it to the point of being a classic expansion pack.

Of course the negative opinion holders here are going to crucify them no matter what. If they make Makeb larger and the foundation for a true game expansion, you will crucify them for changing their minds and for not releaseing Makeb with 1.4. If they keep to their original plan (and since there was never a formal product announcement, there was no firm commitment by them) for Makeb, then you will crucify them for not releasing enough content.

With the negative opinion crowd on the forums here, there is no win for Bioware. And you wonder why they are careful about communications to you.
One has to wonder where these folks originally recieved this negative opinion..?

Perhaps as far back as, " So far very few people have seen, or know much about the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away! "

or as recent as

Theres no further word on the super dee duper space project..

Oh wait, yes there is....

They don't seem to know from one moment to the next what they are doing, or what they have...

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Styxx
08.19.2012 , 12:34 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Of course the negative opinion holders here are going to crucify them no matter what. If they make Makeb larger and the foundation for a true game expansion, you will crucify them for changing their minds and for not releaseing Makeb with 1.4. If they keep to their original plan (and since there was never a formal product announcement, there was no firm commitment by them) for Makeb, then you will crucify them for not releasing enough content.

With the negative opinion crowd on the forums here, there is no win for Bioware. And you wonder why they are careful about communications to you.
So, let me get things straight.

They withhold content since April (content that was supposed to be released monthly), to "bundle" in a bigger patch that we are supposed to pay for, literally making us pay for what was rightfully ours during the months that passed since launch until today?

And I am negative because they never firmly state something and then DELIVER!? This is not how to sell a product, I am sorry.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...517855&page=27
3rd post from bottom... I am willing to take bets that they`ll never agree. Why should they? Talk is cheap, whiskey`s for money.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello View Post
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Andryah
08.19.2012 , 12:36 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Tic- View Post
One has to wonder where these folks originally recieved this negative opinions..?
I'm glad you asked.

Opinion is formed from within. It is self-inflicted.

Negative opinion likewise is self-inflicted. If someone is negative or has a negative attitude, they consider only the bad aspects of a situation, rather than the good ones. When they express it in the form of a personal opinion, they are projecting. The projection is often further distorted by presenting opinion as fact.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Andryah
08.19.2012 , 12:38 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
"bundle" in a bigger patch that we are supposed to pay for, literally making us pay for what was rightfully ours during the months that passed since launch until today?
Speculation presented as fact. In other words, an opinon.

You are entitled to your opinions. What you do with them, including how you allow them to affect your outlooks, is up to you.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Tic-
08.19.2012 , 12:40 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I'm glad you asked.

Opinion is formed from within. It is self-inflicted.

Negative opinion likewise is self-inflicted. If someone is negative or has a negative attitude, they consider only the bad aspects of a situation, rather than the good ones. When they express it in the form of a personal opinion, they are projecting. The projection is often further distorted by presenting opinion as fact.
Yep, and the other things i pointed out have nothing to do with forming that opinion?

Let me wipe the slate clean, and just keep paying, hoping these fine folks change what seems to be a continous problem with their communication...

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mothear
08.19.2012 , 12:40 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Company roadmaps evolve over time, and not just in MMOs. They change things, they change their mind, they adjust to their customer base, etc. etc.

You guys act like there is no opportunity for them to adjust their product plans and road map. When in fact, we have seen plenty of evidence over the last 8 months that they do indeed adjust plans and product roadmpa.

Sounds to me from the interview (with THE business director for this product, the executive producer) like they may be reviewing if they want to use Makeb as the foundation for a paid expansion to me. Since it will have all new story in it, and since they said it was going to be a very large chunk of content, it could very well be that instead of making it part of 1.4, they want to make it larger, and maybe even expand it to the point of being a classic expansion pack.

Of course the negative opinion holders here are going to crucify them no matter what. If they make Makeb larger and the foundation for a true game expansion, you will crucify them for changing their minds and for not releaseing Makeb with 1.4. If they keep to their original plan (and since there was never a formal product announcement, there was no firm commitment by them) for Makeb, then you will crucify them for not releasing enough content.

With the negative opinion crowd on the forums here, there is no win for Bioware. And you wonder why they are careful about communications to you.
My response was to someone who was stating that BW had not said that they were considering charging for Makeb.

If you had read my previous posts, instead of jumping in in your attack dog style, you would have seen I have no intrinsic issue with F2P. I also stated earlier in the thread that I would be happy for the whole of the Makeb release to be in the cash shop, as long as my cartel coins cover the cost (indeed this is what I expect them to do, effectively making it 'free' if you don't spend your coins elsewhere). How's that for allowing them to adjust their Business plan?

Whilst I hope, and expect, that content which is not physically available in the shops will be available at no cost to subscribers - by using their cartel coins - what I don't understand is the seeming expectation that F2P is going to give you something for 'free' via a cartel coin stipend. If you use up your coins on non-core game fluff then you have to pay for new output. Seems straight forward to me.

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Skoobie
08.19.2012 , 12:48 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Speculation presented as fact.
You really need a new catch phrase.

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Andryah
08.19.2012 , 12:50 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
You really need a new catch phrase.
Truth is not a catch phrase.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.