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10 races that are better than Cathar.

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GreenLantern
08.20.2012 , 08:36 AM | #161
What most of the people who cry about race choices and the Cathar announcement somehow fail to realize is that every character is Voice acted. If a race lacks the ability to speak galactic basic, then throw it out the window. There is no possible way devs can justify flushing the entire voice over of each class down the toilet and replace it with rwwwwwwwrwaoaowwowowrrworowr or the crazy Rodese i can't even begin to type out. Having said that, I do agree that there are much more interesting races than the Cathar, such as the ballin' out of control Mon Cal, the race I wanted to play from the beginning.
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Artoon
08.20.2012 , 09:19 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by GreenLantern View Post
What most of the people who cry about race choices and the Cathar announcement somehow fail to realize is that every character is Voice acted. If a race lacks the ability to speak galactic basic, then throw it out the window. There is no possible way devs can justify flushing the entire voice over of each class down the toilet and replace it with rwwwwwwwrwaoaowwowowrrworowr or the crazy Rodese i can't even begin to type out. Having said that, I do agree that there are much more interesting races than the Cathar, such as the ballin' out of control Mon Cal, the race I wanted to play from the beginning.

What people who continually bring this up fail to realize, is that it is an IDIOTIC argument. There are already alien races in the game, which do not speak basic, and have subtitles. If it blows your tiny mind too much to concieve of such a thing as 'playable' versus 'unplayable' then well I guess that's your problem.

The voice acting would not be flushed down the toilet. It would still be there for all the recolored reskinned humans in the game.

All of this boils down to "IF IT REQUIRES ANY WORK AT ALL ABOVE THE BARE MINIMUM, IT WILL NOT BE ADDED TO THE GAME, EVER." Which is a completely different argument than "it's impossible to conceive of having cool and unique alien races in a Star Wars universe."

I'd say the choice of Cathar fits well with their other decisions, because it is terrible. And terrible fights right in with their walled-in, on-rails, LitterBox single-player game they've created. Really the Star Wars huge fanbase huge franchise MMO going free to play within a year? Cathar BS fights right in with that.

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Artoon
08.20.2012 , 09:30 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Malastare View Post
Do you know the lore the game is based upon?

Wookiees have been slaves up to about 300 years before the game, and the vast majority of them haven't left the planet and see no real reason to. Why would you overthrow your oppressors to gain control of your own planet and... leave? Does it make any sense that you'd have a Wookiee Soldier? Kashyyk isn't even part of the republic. What about a Wookiee agent? The Empire isn't terribly happy about using Chiss, but a Wookiee would be okay?

And a Sith or Jedi Wookiee... yeah, those are explicitly prohibited. Never gonna happen.

Yes, I know that logic and lore don't play a part in this argument, it's simply: I want (a Wookiee). Many people would be happy to shred lore and ignore any sort of story consistency so long as they got what they want.

I for one am happy that Bioware doesn't give in to such demands (or at least, they haven't yet).
But it DOES make sense, lore-wise, to have Pureblood Sith Jedi running around all over the place? Hardly. Lore has nothing to do with it.

More like: "We are too lazy to add any race that does not use current body-types with a different colored face," and Wookies don't fit that description. Neither do Trandoshans, Selkath, whatever race those original bounty hunters Hammerhead and Snaggletooth were, Nogrhi, and so on and so on through the hundreds or thousands of conceivable races in the Star Wars universe.

As for Droids, well yeah they can speak basic, but they can't be forced into body types 1-4. Player abilities that effect droids, could be modified to be usable against "NPC droids" but not "player droids" ie. just code player-droids to not be treated as "droids" but all of that is pointless since they can't be body types 1-4 so they will -never- be in the game.

Bioware: "We're going to add a race that sucks, and if you don't like it, we won't add more races."

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AstralProjection
08.20.2012 , 11:45 AM | #164
This list is tempered by what I think the Devs actually could (more like would) do. I actually do like the Cathar, I just think it's far too little. New races should come in pairs minimum IMO, though I have no idea why my brain has decided upon that.

1) Togruta
2) Nautolan
3) Rodian
4) Kel Dor
5) Bothan
6) Mon Calamari
7) Nikto
8) Weequay
9) Chagrian
10) Vultan
11) Iktochi

Would love to see Trandoshan and Wookiee as well though - Wookiees will never happen because lightsabers are out for good per GL, and the language barrier, Trandoshans have their funky language and both races would require new models (definitely not impossible, but with the corner cutting we've seen I'll say right now it ain't going to happen)
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Temeluchus
08.20.2012 , 11:50 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Philar View Post
I don't care about the Cathar, and certainly won't be deleting one of my existing characters to make one.

I would absolutely delete and reroll a character slot if I could make a droid, especially an HK series (an HK Bounty Hunter FTW!)
Devs have already stated,multiple times, that character slots will be added; it's just unclear on how many or how soon this is happening. You wouldn't have to delete any characters anyways.
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AstralProjection
08.20.2012 , 11:59 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by GreenLantern View Post
What most of the people who cry about race choices and the Cathar announcement somehow fail to realize is that every character is Voice acted. If a race lacks the ability to speak galactic basic, then throw it out the window. There is no possible way devs can justify flushing the entire voice over of each class down the toilet and replace it with rwwwwwwwrwaoaowwowowrrworowr or the crazy Rodese i can't even begin to type out. Having said that, I do agree that there are much more interesting races than the Cathar, such as the ballin' out of control Mon Cal, the race I wanted to play from the beginning.
While I don't agree with the total diatribe below your post, I do agree with part of it- I don't get why so many people fail to see why a bunch of canned Huttese/Rodese/Whatever with subtitles wouldn't work?

We've already broken immersion with Sith Pureblood Jedi, etc...this isn't even immersion breaking. I would gladly have a subtitled character I didn't understand to get a chance to play the wealth of awesome races in the Star Wars Universe. The character creation process' deficiencies are a huge letdown for a lot of big Star Wars fans playing this game.

As you mentioned - there are lots of races, like the ones I listed, that can speak basic, and could easily be added to the game. Just make the head slot hidden until they can re-do helm graphics. I'm sure nobody would complain. In fact, they'd probably prefer getting to look unique over a ton of characters all wearing the same helm and not even being able to tell they're aliens, e.g. the current state of the game.
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Beans_of_steel
08.20.2012 , 01:10 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Artoon View Post
What people who continually bring this up fail to realize, is that it is an IDIOTIC argument. There are already alien races in the game, which do not speak basic, and have subtitles. If it blows your tiny mind too much to concieve of such a thing as 'playable' versus 'unplayable' then well I guess that's your problem.

The voice acting would not be flushed down the toilet. It would still be there for all the recolored reskinned humans in the game.

All of this boils down to "IF IT REQUIRES ANY WORK AT ALL ABOVE THE BARE MINIMUM, IT WILL NOT BE ADDED TO THE GAME, EVER." Which is a completely different argument than "it's impossible to conceive of having cool and unique alien races in a Star Wars universe."

I'd say the choice of Cathar fits well with their other decisions, because it is terrible. And terrible fights right in with their walled-in, on-rails, LitterBox single-player game they've created. Really the Star Wars huge fanbase huge franchise MMO going free to play within a year? Cathar BS fights right in with that.
That and how is the voice thing it an excuse at all? Is anyone else confused, didnt bioware have a hand in making 4 pc games wherein your created main character had a number of different voice sets u could choose from upon creation, baldurs gate 1 and 2 and icewind dale 1 and 2 and those were made 10 years ago what happened with that? I loved that idea.

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Beans_of_steel
08.20.2012 , 01:25 PM | #168
To have the option for races like wookiees, trandoshans, sullustans, and selkath. Id b willing the make the sacrifice for the repeated series of language noises with subtitles npcs get, if people find it annoying, they dont have to play them, but i think enuf still would, its never really bothered me. I think buddy up there could b right tho, the real issue may b they dont wana put the work into a body form that doesnt fit there current 4 body type format.

I also dont care about getting a helmet that shows up as a headband, or even doesnt show up at all, as long as i get the stats. Or even no helmet at all n diffferent species stats to even it out, im not gonna whine over a stupid helmet, its a helmet. Besides if ur picking an exotic looking race why would u wanna cover its face with a helmet anyways?

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scadge
08.24.2012 , 11:58 AM | #169
i like the idea of cathars but personally i wish they'd add squibs http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Squib

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Kissakias
08.24.2012 , 03:51 PM | #170
still prefer cathar from all suggestions
never like trandoshan, wookie, selkath, ewok, and the worst of all ithorian

idd like to see togruta thought
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