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Scoundrel or Smuggler pure dps?

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Scoundrel or Smuggler pure dps?

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bryceman
07.29.2012 , 08:55 AM | #11
All I have to say about Scoundrel dps is that it is great for pvp because you can do a lot of burst damage real quick then escape with stealth then come back to finish off the target. You basically do a **** ton of damage real quick then run to the hills. For pve you can use it as a dps class as long as you are careful about your energy consumption. It is very easy to burn through all that energy with sucker punches and back blasts. Just make sure to stack a lot of crit and surge up until the soft cap because you want pretty much all your attacks to hit big.

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Gassygunslinger
07.29.2012 , 11:44 AM | #12
Always remember, that each class and each Advanced Class has the option of going pure DPS. In fact, 2/3 of the skill trees available to EVERY SINGLE player is DPS.
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bryceman
07.29.2012 , 12:21 PM | #13
That is true but the pure dps tree that should give the most output is to scoundrels pretty much useless because most of the abilities call for the use of 2 blasters. Smugglers' offhand weapon is a shotgun so if you want the best dps for a scoundrel I strongly encourage you go with the scrapper tree.

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Jayshames
07.29.2012 , 12:28 PM | #14
Scoundrels are AMAZING lvl 40-49, but apart from that then basically GS trumps it, Scoundrel and GS share a DPS tree which is arguably the best one for scoundrel (except 40-49), though it's easier for GS because they dont need the proc thing (Tactical Advantage for Operative, not sure what it's called on scoundrel)

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Smuglebunny
07.29.2012 , 12:34 PM | #15
Im a saboteur Gunslinger. I down marauders with ease and marksmen snipers with less ease, but still.

Only Ops and Powertechs scare me as a slanger.

I can do 8 - 10k damage from multiple sources pretty quick. Would be nice to have stealth but as far as gameplay goes...

My gunslinger is 50 in full battlemaster with a few WH pieces, all companions at 10000.
My Operative is at lvl 24 and i hate playing it. Probly gonna delete it and roll a sniper to experience the agent story.

Just sayin.

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Gassygunslinger
07.29.2012 , 03:37 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by bryceman View Post
That is true but the pure dps tree that should give the most output is to scoundrels pretty much useless because most of the abilities call for the use of 2 blasters. Smugglers' offhand weapon is a shotgun so if you want the best dps for a scoundrel I strongly encourage you go with the scrapper tree.
The shared tree only requires two pistols on the GS version. Secondly, the imagined dps boost you get from a second blaster is all in your imagination. Your off-hand blaster and your scattergun are just stat sticks. If I recall, both give about a 30% boost to damage (assuming it's at the same level as your main hand).
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LagunaD
07.31.2012 , 03:50 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Gassygunslinger View Post
Secondly, the imagined dps boost you get from a second blaster is all in your imagination. Your off-hand blaster and your scattergun are just stat sticks. If I recall, both give about a 30% boost to damage (assuming it's at the same level as your main hand).
The gunslinger off-hand and scoundrel off-hand are stat sticks, but not comparable mechanically.

There is no weapon-based attack which actually uses the shotgun, and the damage range shown on scatterguns is cosmetic (although it is correlated with the Tech Power stat of the item, which is not cosmetic). The attacks (all two of them) where the animation shows the shotgun attacking are really tech attacks similar to Blaster Whip, which do not use any weapon's damage value.

Gunslingers are true dual-wield, and their off-hand weapon is actually used in attacks. But off-hand attacks add much less than 30% to their damage, because they do not benefit from bonus damage, have much lower accuracy, and do not have any base damage. It is more like 5-10%.
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Gassygunslinger
07.31.2012 , 05:37 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by LagunaD View Post
The gunslinger off-hand and scoundrel off-hand are stat sticks, but not comparable mechanically.

There is no weapon-based attack which actually uses the shotgun, and the damage range shown on scatterguns is cosmetic (although it is correlated with the Tech Power stat of the item, which is not cosmetic). The attacks (all two of them) where the animation shows the shotgun attacking are really tech attacks similar to Blaster Whip, which do not use any weapon's damage value.

Gunslingers are true dual-wield, and their off-hand weapon is actually used in attacks. But off-hand attacks add much less than 30% to their damage, because they do not benefit from bonus damage, have much lower accuracy, and do not have any base damage. It is more like 5-10%.
That I did not know.

However, I think in the end, it still stands that DPS is DPS is DPS.
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Anysao
07.31.2012 , 05:44 PM | #19
a very good set up is "Dirty fighting" Scoundrel. I suggest two points in the sawbones tree (it is at the base of the tree) to get Upper hand from underworld medicine. very useful.
it also has ranged capability. gunslinger is also good, but you are literally a turret.

i have a level 48 lethality operative (imperial version) same thing.
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shaxberd
08.03.2012 , 03:32 PM | #20
I think a dps Scoundrel would make Corso's harpoon much less annoying, and perhaps even tactically-advantageous if you use him to target specific opponents leading into combat. Seriously, this drives me crazy on my Gunslinger.