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(keep it civil) What let you down most about TOR?

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(keep it civil) What let you down most about TOR?

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Genghistwelve
08.08.2012 , 09:30 PM | #51
What let down the most about TOR is that we've lost -- perhaps now forever -- a true KotoR 3.

KotoR 3 should not have been multiplayerified at all. There should have not been any marketing of this game as "Kotor 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and more." It should have stayed away from Revan.

Next is that Revan ended up becoming a mid-boss to be defeated by the even uberer TOR player; metaphotically making the statement that TOR >> KOTOR; TOR TOON >> KOTOR TOON.

Next are the cards that TOR dealt the Exile.

Basically, the fact that we never did get even one good KOTOR sequel out of this game, much less 7, as it was presented, is its biggest letdown.
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akdonkey
08.08.2012 , 09:40 PM | #52
All The Power Ranger Villans armor in Game.

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Totaltrash
08.08.2012 , 09:45 PM | #53
I think what disappointed me the most was that you could roll Imp and Pub toons on the same server.
That should have never happened - it would have changed the whole gaming experience, making Dark vs. Light Side feel much more real.

Otherwise, here is my list of complaints:

1. Cheaters, exploiters and hackers and what little Bioware is doing about them (netlimiter is the cheat FOTM atm).
2. Buggy FPs, OPS and WZs - some of these bugs have been around since launch (i.e. spawn lying down)
3. Death of Open World PVP (I miss mega battles on Ilum, lag or not, they were fun!)
4. Crude crafting system (they could have really made an effort to make this more challenging and sophisticated)
5. Legacy being all fluff and no substance (give loyal subscribers a real reward, not another silly pet or dumb title)

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Tigzie
08.08.2012 , 09:46 PM | #54
Just two things for me;

1) I am annoyed when things get nerfed because people complain that they cant do something, this just bugs me because at the end of the day if something is tough keep trying/change strategies... i mean come on SOA has been nerfed to the point where it wouldnt surprise me if a vid came out soon of someone 1 manning him .... its just dissapointing

2) Revan........ This guy leads the republic to victory against the mandalorians .... he then comes back sith and near about takes down the republic but does so strategically so as not to destroy key worlds.... he then gets a wiped memory and BOOM again makes a comeback with what was it a team of 8 or something? finds all the star maps fights through an army on the star forge and AGAIN saves the republic not to mention he is the only jedi to have mastered the dark and the light side of the force at once..... Then going on his own .... ON HIS OWN back to the sith empire to try and take down the emperor .....

Ok this is one bad *** mother ..... you cant tell me im wrong here..... this guy is a BEAST.....

Then your telling me my sith can group with 3 other people and take him out? ..... Are you kidding me? ..... Really? ... i dont care who you are your toon should in no way be more powerful than revan .... in a thousand years.... We took him through that first KOTOR to the end beating malik ... Then they just end him with a story that didnt exactly seem that well thought of .... That was my biggest dissapointment of all lol

Was hoping when i saw the revan advert he would be your master or you could at least lead strike forces with him didnt bother me if he was sith or jedi .... nope.... let dooown lol

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Ashardis
08.08.2012 , 09:51 PM | #55
This is what I wrote in the "Cancel my subscription" textbox, I think it sums up my thoughts pretty well and the box didn't accept more than 2000 chars so I had to keep it short aswell!

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Letting EA force BW to release 2˝-3 months to soon was a big mistake.
Release should have been with the underlying mechanics from 1.3, then EC/Kaon/LI could have come later.
Having to devote developer time to developing structural mechanics (like LFG/Rated WZ/Augments/Legacy) instead of creating new content is not a good thing for a game that initially prided itself on having the tools on hand to create new content with a low turn-a-round time.
This caused a backlog in content release and as it seems now, SWTOR will only have released 3 full NM Ops by it's 1 year mark, 2 of them included at launch.
Announcing that you have the tools to make new content really fast and then only releasing 1 new ops/2 FP/1 (maybe 2!) WZ in 12 months is just not good enough.
There is ofc also the issue of population on servers. Again I hope that if you'd had 2 months more before release, you would have been able to make the same upgrades to servertech so that we would have gotten the same number of people on servers as we do atm. thus negating the whole slew of population based issues. This might even have made Ilum openworld PVP work!
Atm. the deathspiral of lead devs/dev teams being re-assigned/leaving combined with F2P announcements leaves me to wonder how long the issues surfacing to the public have been there.
I also completely fail to comprehend the decisions behind taking away dev teams at such a critical time pre-1.2, unless the management had already given up on SWTOR.
If SWTOR were to survive, it would have been crucial to reinforce dev teams so that content AND underlying mechanics would've been made at the same time instead of one OR the other at it seems atm.
4 Months without any new actual content, only new incentives to re-play the old and a foreseeable future without a new Ops has fortified my choice.
I really really wanted to give SWTOR a chance, but you blew it thanks to the management forcing the lead dev's hand, then taking devs away.
So so sad

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MidichIorian
08.08.2012 , 09:53 PM | #56
* Doesnt feel Star Wars'ish

*Class balance is in some cases way off. That's tolerable, what's not ok is BW telling people to L2P. Such an arrogant reply to complaints that keep popping up houndreds of times each day on this site.

*No organized ow-PvP

*Not being able to instantly turn off PvP flag on PvE servers

*Silly money sinks that make no sense at all and only restrict players, foremost refering to the costs for pulling mods.

*The focus on insignificant things such as speeders and pets instead of putting time into fixing obvious bugs and shortcomings.

*Promises they can't live up to. Where are updates ythey promised on a monthly basis? Are they refering to bug fixing as an update or is it something that will start with two years from now?

*Patches that seemingly only make things buggier. I don't think I've ever come across one of the bugs they were "fixing". I have however had numerous other bugs after that they tried to fix something.

*Downtime sometimes three times per week and always at the same hour. I thought I paid so that I could play when I wanted to play and yes, I expected maintenance but not that often and for 2-6 hours every time.

*Armor. I just don't get some of the armor models, they're absolutely horrible and it would probably have taken them less time to create the plain jedi'ish outfits people actually want instead of the "elegant" crap with shoulder pads they persist on giving us.

*They want us to roll alts and use the legacy perks but unless you are extremely successful in your crafting you won't be able to afford the perks on more than one alt at a time. So you basically have to play on the main too for it to add up. I don't have 40 hours per week to spend on this.

*Lack of dynamic/world events. It would be better to have the same rakghoul thing every weekend than nothing at all for 5 months.

*Animations, foremost the sage's, are lacking severely.

*Few "rare" items and basically none pre-50. At 50 there's only a handful such as the black/red speeder and that hat from KP.

*GF is lacking and not even doing the few things it should be capable off. I queue as dps, I make sure that it says dps only, yet I keep ending up as healer. And yes, this is when solo queue'ing so it's not because of the leader bug...another thing that should have been fixed.

*Having to send CS a message about not recieving BH comms ...EVERY WEEK

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wellymace
08.08.2012 , 10:53 PM | #57
the lies "its coming:...when nothing ever comes.

the fact that Oceanic get approx two downtimes/week in prime time

the fact we pay $15 for...wait....why do we pay it again??

first 3 patches should have been included at launch

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Darth_Victus
08.08.2012 , 11:16 PM | #58
Lack of social past times in game.

No alcohol, no pazaak, no swoop racing.

There is nothing to do for the down time between quests, flashpoints, and operations.

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IasonEvan
08.08.2012 , 11:37 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Victus View Post
Lack of social past times in game.

No alcohol, no pazaak, no swoop racing.

There is nothing to do for the down time between quests, flashpoints, and operations.
i'd LOVE to echo this sentiment. All of my guildies who are still playing and I were talking about this on TS tonight. Where is the Pazaak? Where is the swoop/pod racing? Dejarik[sic?]? Sabaac? Why don't all the games work in the casino on Nar Shaddaa? Could you imagine how packed that thing would be all the time with players? You can't just put a band on a stage in front of a Hutt statue and think people will hang out somewhere. GIve the people something to do that is purely recreational. BW has said since release that they are working on that type of stuff. At this point I think they are just keeping it for when it goes f2p so they can charge people a la carte for it.

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Thondan
08.08.2012 , 11:41 PM | #60
General disinterest in everything once leveling to max on both alts and main. Once you've done it twice, you've done it all and you're just going through the motions to get to your damn class story. There should be alternative XP sources besides flashpoints, warzones, and quests. Minigames come to mind or specific activities like smuggling and bounty hunting, but we sure as hell aren't getting that are we?