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what's the protocol for item drops in flashpoints

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what's the protocol for item drops in flashpoints

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Selenial
08.08.2012 , 02:27 PM | #21
If you needed for the selling item, or the item you wanted to RE/Dissasemble, then no you cant call them A-Holes, because Your the A-Hole. If you Greeded the sell item, and dissasembled the dissasemble item, then yes, call them A-Holes all you want, but it wont help.
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DenitharPurloin
08.08.2012 , 02:37 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by atheosa View Post
thank you all for your input. from now on, i will only need what is better equipment and just pass on everything else. if the whole group passes, then we will all greed for it. it seems like this would take more time while playing, but most battles do have a pause at the end before the next one, anyway. again, thanks for the input. i feel i will be a better mmo group mate now.
No need to pass m8, typically I will greed on everything that drops without any complaints or incidents. Greed for a few extra credits is not only acceptable, but encouraged.

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Takin_A_Sith
08.08.2012 , 02:41 PM | #23
Well I guess I should apologize to anyone that has grouped with me on the game. I really wasn't trying to be an A-hole, and since no one ever called me on it I thought it was accepted practice. I stand corrected. I'm pretty new to the world of MMO's and only started playing them for about a year. I was always a console gamer growing up until my bro introduced me to this game you may have heard of called WoW.

I know the mention of this game on the board is a sore subject for some, but I enjoyed it. I usually soloed unless grouping with my bro, so this whole grouping thing is still kinda new to me. He always invited me and set loot rules to free-for-all, so there was no "rolling" for items. Since he is my bro, if I grabbed something he needed or vise versa we would trade items so everything worked out fine.

So again, sorry.... it was never my intention to piss off anyone. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle. GI JOE!!!


OK that was kinda stupid......

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Eternalnight
08.08.2012 , 03:06 PM | #24
How can he still be that clueless about how the loot system works despite it being explained by so many people in this thread?

Quote: Originally Posted by atheosa View Post
from now on, i will only need what is better equipment and just pass on everything else.
Why would you pass?
There is no reason to ever pass anything.
You Need on items that are upgrades to your main character and can greed on everything else.

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if the whole group passes, then we will all greed for it.
What are you even talking about?
YOU CAN'T GREED ANYTHING AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED!!!

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it seems like this would take more time while playing
Nothing about anything people here have suggested would take any more time. Not even 1 second more time. Not even one billionth of a second.

It takes just as much time to click greed as it takes to click need!!!

If the item is an upgrade that you would wear on the character you are playing you will click need.
Anything else, and you will click greed.
Both of them can be clicked IMMEDIATELY, as soon as you have seen what the item is.
What do you still not understand about it? It has been explained like more than 10 times in this thread already.


The whole reason for a need before greed system to exist is that you people who use it right don't have to wait and see if others will roll for the item before they decide what to do.

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atheosa
08.08.2012 , 05:17 PM | #25
i guess my misunderstanding comes from not knowing how the "roll" system works. Example: 3 people greed for and item and 1 person needs it. will the roll be random and someone who greeded it could get it, or will it first be a random roll for who needs it, then greed? And i'm sorry for my ignorance as i am new to mmo games. i played rpg games mostly and am new to this. please be kind

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ekimmak
08.08.2012 , 05:36 PM | #26
The way it works is this:

First, it checks for anyone who needed it. If more than one, then each gets a roll. Highest roll wins.

If no one hits Need, then it goes to greed and disassemble. Everyone rolls, and whoever gets the highest roll decides what happens, if they greeded they get the item, if they disassemble they get the materials.

If everyone passes, the item becomes open to pickup by anyone.
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Khevar
08.08.2012 , 05:38 PM | #27
It goes like this:

1. If anyone "passes" they won't get it.
2. If you "Need" on an item, you compete against others "Needs" for a random chance to get it.
3. If you "Greed" on an item, you compete against other "Greeds" for a random chance to get it.
4. If anyone clicks "Need" then the others who clicked "Greed" will automatically lose and can't get it.

So if you're planning on selling it, giving to your companion, etc. the best choice is Greed. Because all the other players in your group could sell it, and have companions, too. So Greed gives a fair chance of anyone getting the toot.

If, however, the loot in question is for your class specifically, and it is better than what you've got on, you can get an immediately increase in your stats if you put it on. So then you Need it. If another player in your group is in the same boat, and he/she also Needs on it, it will randomly be given out among the Needs. But at least one person who could put that gear on right away and gain a tangible benefit will get it.

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Evoprime
08.08.2012 , 05:49 PM | #28
@OP

Welcome to MMO communities, where your fellow gamers suck the life out of you.

Need is the first set of rolls, if nobody needed it, then greed and dissasemble are thrown together.

Refering to your OP, you were right in your rolls. You needed when you needed something, you greeded when you were greedy, and you disassembled when you wanted the mats. If disassemble were not kosher, it would not be part of the roll system.

As far as the conduct of your group (kicking you for following etiquette) goes, that is subjective and is determined from whatever occured in the FP before that moment. I would not have kicked you unless there were other issues, and definitely not right after killing Malgus (or equivalent) and before the distribution of loot.

Keep needing on stuff your character needs, greeding for companions and greed, and disassembling when you want and your profession supports it.

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Takin_A_Sith
08.09.2012 , 12:06 AM | #29
Sheesh! Some people act like they are the masters of the MMO. We were all new at this at one time, so remember that when you get the attitude. That's the main reason it took me so long to come around to playing MMO's, because you get that group who thinks this game is life or death and if you make a mistake or ask a question you get slammed for it. IT'S A GAME PEOPLE!!!!! Remember that. Just try to be more respectful, especially to the new guys. Without new people joining the game, it really won't be MMORPG. It will just be a ORPG, and you will still be screaming at no one in particular in your mom's basement. So get a life, huh?

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DSafana
08.09.2012 , 06:50 AM | #30
Imagine you are a new level 50 marauder. You need better gear.
Imagine your token for the Sith warrior chestpiece drops. A major improvement.
You select NEED as you should. 2 others select Greed because it's not an upgrade to them.
The last member is a Imperial agent, and he selects NEED because he wants to sell it for the credits.
The Agent wins the roll and your gear still sucks.
How does that make you feel? Now consider it happens to you 10 times in a row? If you don't like the way it makes you feel, why would you do the same to others?
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