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Why I hate 70% of Sith Players


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TriggerBlade
08.05.2012 , 02:21 AM | #11
I'd like to point out all of this is was written when I was in a very pissed off mood. Even though I realize this, I still stand by my OP. Yes typos and what not, but all of this was personal experience. I am VERY opened minded, like a lot of RPers I know and am friends with. Though this is unexseptable. A level 11 Sith running around half naked saying he's The head of the Dark Council. I would understand and even laugh and give the guy a pat on the back if he was joking or trolling, but he was dead serious. Which is bad RP. Some people say "Oh that's just what you think is bad." No it is fact that if you RP Reven or the Exile and are just time travelers you are disrespecting lore other players and are being a snowflake. I swear that I have seen people RP this. Those that say "there is no bad RP" Are the ones that in MY experience the ones that are doing this crap. Now I ask that we return to what this forum post was about. Defending Sith or sharing a story of a messed up one you have met, and NOT post something attacking me.
You mad rakghoul?

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dronepilot
08.05.2012 , 02:42 AM | #12
now, I'm actually glad I am not on an RP server !
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DaWaffle
08.05.2012 , 08:42 AM | #13
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now, I'm actually glad I am not on an RP server !
How come? This stuff only really irritates you if you RP, and there's plenty of good RP out there anyway.

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TriggerBlade
08.05.2012 , 04:48 PM | #14
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now, I'm actually glad I am not on an RP server !
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How come? This stuff only really irritates you if you RP, and there's plenty of good RP out there anyway.
Agreed there is plenty of great and fun RP. There are even great RPers that are really good with lroe and know how to make things fun and educational if you're not big on lore. Even if you don't RP you can just log on and watch people RP. Think of it as a cutscene but other players are the NPCs.
You mad rakghoul?

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bionamaster
08.09.2012 , 11:30 AM | #15
Ouch, some of those Sith sound like nightmares. I've been on RP servers in other games, and I know just how bad RP can get (especially godmodding, ugh, don't get me started on one guy who said he was the general's son). I basically rolled on a PvE server to avoid this, and I find my server (The Shadowlands) very fun, if you ignore the trolls. Hmm, i'd suggest rolling a Republic character, watch the RPing (if you haven't done all this already) and see how it goes. Even if a Knight or a Consular took their codes too far, it would just mean they couldn't RP a romance
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Beltane
08.09.2012 , 02:06 PM | #16
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1. Illogical Racisim.
I understand that human and pureblood Sith would act snide and elietest towards other races and nonforce users. Though not on this level. I see people activily ignoreing Twi'leks, Zabraks and and Rattikai because they are choosing to RP Darths or anything other than basic force sensitive. by now the in the STWOR world other aliens have proven themselves to be worthwhile. They are still looked down upon but are given the chance to become agents, soldiers, scientist and Sith. It baffels me, because the inquisitor advanced trainer is a Twi'lek that doesn't even speak basic(A.K.A English or whatever language you have set on)
Actually, this is false and sounds more like you blending IC/OOC and getting mad when someone's character disrespects yours for being an alien (just guessing). Racism is alive and well in the Empire. Aliens may be allowed to train as Sith and serve in the Imperial military, but by no stretch of the imagination are they viewed as equals with humans and purebloods. The word "alien" is used in a derogatory way throughout all of the Empire questlines, and your character often expresses surprise when an alien has a high station in a quest.

Furthermore, you are totally discounting the fact that individual people could have highly racist characters. If my character loathes all aliens and refuses to address them as equals... it's RP. It's IC. I don't expect someone to be mad OOC because my character does not like aliens, lol.

As for the non-Force user thing... of course the vast majority of Sith are going to look down upon non-FS. The Sith Empire is ruled by Sith with an iron fist. A Rattataki bounty hunter is barely above a slave in the eyes of the dark council and Sith as a whole. I have never understood why people get upset OOC about playing on the evil faction's side, when said evil faction is clearly biased and believes themselves superior to species/social status lower than them. If an alien attacks a human in the Sith Empire, the canon sentence is death.

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2.Everyone is Darth Zashes apprentice.
This goes with the don't RP your class' main story rule, but I no longer see this anywhere other than the Inquisitors. Every other class I've seen has wised up, but not the Inquisitors claim to be Zashes apprentice. To joke around twice I said "Well so am I." On both times th person raged on me. This was middle of the day during school hours so unless some kid stayed home sick, I was dealing with some no life guy that lives in his basement.
Agree people shouldn't take their class stories IC but disagree with your analysis of the person's real life for all the reasons posters above me did.

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3. The total dismissal of Sith guidelines. rules and decrees.
Most Sith run around ruining everyone's day ICly. They assault, exort and even try to !>-****-<! other players. I get the whole Sith are evil and can be monsters thing. Though the Sith ahve always followed some form of guidlines so people don't see them as psychopatic squirrels on crack. I have seen the above actions happen multiple times and everytime someone tries to fight back or call them out the Sith calls them traitors to the Empire demanding OOC that you let them perma kill your character because you insulted a Sith. If you say no and tell them to screw off, they trash talk you for about 20 minutes, then put you on ignore and file a complaint, having bioware send you a warning mail. If you pay even the slightest attention to the first couple cutscenes of either the Inquisitor or the warrior you can see them clearly state the rules and guidlines Sith follow and there is a quest on Dromund Kaas that informs you no matter what your class is that even full fledged sith can not kill lower members such at acolytes and apprentices. If you get them in trouble you are informed they were exucuted by Imperial Security without trial or investigation. The Empire takes theses rogue Sith VERY seriously. Like it or not people no matter what you say the Sith must behave or they get put down. It is plastered all over the game and it is clear as day.
I agree halfway. Sith don't go around just slaughtering everyone, but at the same time... Sith kill other Sith when they can get away with it. It's literally constant in both the Warrior & Inquisitor questlines. It is risky and can have consequences if the Sith aren't smart about it, but it still does happen. Some of this also seems to blur IC/OOC again. If someone plays an incredibly aggressive, hostile character, it doesn't mean they OOCly are an idiot and don't understand canon. Maybe it's their character.

Furthermore, the Sith are intended to be the evil antagonists of the game/Star Wars universe. They don't have a fair, logical governing body that is concerned if a Sith "misbehaves." Sith can pretty much do whatever they want until it comes to killing another Sith--openly. I'm pretty sure if a Sith killed an agent for backtalking them that nobody in the Empire would bat an eye.

I also have literally never heard of Bioware sending people warnings for the outcome of RP fights.

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4. The demand of respect due to being level 50 and having the Darth title.
Yeah, that's dumb.

Basically, I see a lot of this post as blending IC & OOC. I understand that bad RP can be frustrating, but everyone's opinion of what bad RP is differs. You will be much, much happier in the long run if you simply relax and if something bugs you, go somewhere else rather than coming here and ranting about it, and insulting people who may have put a lot of time into their characters who have logical IC reasons for behaving the way that they do. Of course, this doesn't apply to trolls--but some of your examples sound like actual RP and not trolling. If you don't like racism against aliens, play Pub-side. <3

Also, 70% is a really precise number.
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ZirusZero
08.10.2012 , 01:22 PM | #17
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Nydus
08.10.2012 , 01:44 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by TriggerBlade View Post
1. Illogical Racisim.
I understand that human and pureblood Sith would act snide and elietest towards other races and nonforce users. Though not on this level. I see people activily ignoreing Twi'leks, Zabraks and and Rattikai because they are choosing to RP Darths or anything other than basic force sensitive.
Are you implying there is logical / appropriate racism?

I haven't seen this behaviour. It would seem appropriate to RP an attitude as a pure blood sith against non pure-bloods but I hope it isn't being done to the point people are feeling left out.

EDIT: My Inquisitor has the opposite attitude to a pure-blood Sith. You kind of have to given your companions.

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2.Everyone is Darth Zashes apprentice.
This goes with the don't RP your class' main story rule, but I no longer see this anywhere other than the Inquisitors. Every other class I've seen has wised up, but not the Inquisitors claim to be Zashes apprentice. To joke around twice I said "Well so am I." On both times th person raged on me. This was middle of the day during school hours so unless some kid stayed home sick, I was dealing with some no life guy that lives in his basement.
I logged in once at lunch and remarked how amazing it was the server was full. I was informed it was anywhere between 6 and 9 pm to many of the people online. I've never once seen a fight regarding being Zash's apprentice.

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3. The total dismissal of Sith guidelines. rules and decrees.
Most Sith run around ruining everyone's day ICly. They assault, exort and even try to !>-****-<! other players. I get the whole Sith are evil and can be monsters thing. Though the Sith ahve always followed some form of guidlines so people don't see them as psychopatic squirrels on crack.
No, what you suggest is not in keeping with canon. There are conservative forces within the Empire (e.g. Darth Thanaton) who believe in a strict interpretation of the Code and then there are -- I won't call them liberal -- those who are perfectly willing to bend the rules (e.g. Lord Zash). There are even radicals -- think Imperial Agent storyline, don't want to *spoil* anything -- who are willing to destroy an awful lot Imperial infrastructure and are pretty much the psychopathic squirrels on crack you refer to.

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4. The demand of respect due to being level 50 and having the Darth title.
Never seen it, although on an RP server you would expect to see it.

What server are you on anyways. I haven't seen any of this behaviour on mine.

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Also the server is Ebon Hawk and the spelling was due to me being pissed off at the time and typeing too fast.
We are on the same server and I've NEVER seen this behaviour you speak of. Are you sure you aren't being a little sensitive and blowing a few bad experiences out of proportion.

I have literally only met only 1 jerk on this server. Several "irritating" people, but only 1 person who did anything I would suggest worsened the overall experience of the players around them. And a friendly Level 50 stepped in and corrected the situation.

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TriggerBlade
08.11.2012 , 01:30 PM | #19
I've read all the comments so far and have seen that almost all of them ignore my replys and comment on things or ask questions that have already been corrected I am now going to modify the original post so people who don't read through the comments don't ask the same question people have already asked.
You mad rakghoul?

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Selvec
08.12.2012 , 06:04 PM | #20
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[SIZE="6"] and even try to force themselves on people in ways that the forums won't let me post.
Woah ***? If your suggesting what I think you are that's a complete breach of the TOS and pretty much every rule of SWTOR. That is a permanent bannable offence. You report sick people who try that stuff on players.