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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option

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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option
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Lurtzello
07.31.2012 , 04:24 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Tylerlee View Post
Why is the Sub remaining $15 when 50% of the game is free?

If I buy a Big Mac and Fries and the Fries are F2P I'm only going to pay for the Big Mac right?

What benefits does a subscription give? Full WZ and Ops is not worth $15 a month. Even less so with the obvious slowing of patches due to focus on maintaining F2P players.
Yours is the example of a Buy-to-Play model more than a F2P one. Now, imagine you have a Big Mac, Fries and a Coke. 15 dollars a month, you get all of them. Otherwise you get a free Big Mac but the Fries cost 10 bucks and the Coke costs another 10 dollars. The subscription is more convenient if you want to do everything. And they're not locking only Ops and WZs but also the amount of Flashpoints you can do, the amount of auctions you can create, the amount of money you can carry, the amount of characters and cargo hold tabs you can have and the priority when queued to log into a server.
Meaning: if you want to play at end game at a level a bit higher than casual you pretty much have to buy something or get a subscription.
That's what I understood from the information provided to us.

I think it's a good decision for BioWare, should bring many SW and BW fans who stayed away from SWTOR because of its payment model. Now they will be able to check it out like any other RPG and if they enjoy it they may explore the endgame and this whole move might bring entirely new players into the MMO market itself.
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SithEater
07.31.2012 , 04:24 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by zackinthebox View Post
The only benefit F2P serves is server overcrowding which is already happening and me not having to pay 15$ a month anymore...
The other benefit is that those who aren't really serious about the game will flood it, meaning FPs, WZs, OPs, any and all options available to the dabblers will fall to crap in a hurry. If you pay for something you have a tendency to take it more serious than something you didn"t pay for and something you never plan to.

Boosts? For real? So not even going to splash around in the pay to look good end of the pool, just jumping right into the pay to win deep end. Great. While your at it could you kick me in the stones, just to complete the package.
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Seeleth
07.31.2012 , 04:24 PM | #53
After reading http://www.swtor.com/free/features my positives thoughts for now are staying positive ; )

This gives people that liked the previous star wars games, but don't like paying for mmo's or end game content the chance to just play for the story lines. Yet mmo players like most of the current subsribers that play for more then just the star wars story still have their end game, beyond lvling stuff. I can see how this can be a positive influence on the game, low lvl zones will stay more crowded as the game progresses and I do really hope that the more frequent game updates will do well.

Of course I am worried about a couple off things. What type of people are joining and are they going to be able to troll / ruin the social experience and community in the lvl 1 - 50 zones? But with all the limitations there might not be much room for this anyways. And I really hope that with the Cartel Coins only social and cosmetic items can be purchased, but nothing that can influence the gameplay in pvp or pve.

I hope this will work out nicely for everyone!

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OnoriaMortalitas
07.31.2012 , 04:25 PM | #54
Thanks for killing the game, and selling out to 10 year olds with no money.

You've just cost yourself a lot of players.

Now if you made a Sub Only set of servers.. might be a different story..

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JamieKirby
07.31.2012 , 04:25 PM | #55
Well, personally, i think the devs are being utterly insane and stupid, 99% of players tend to be cheapskates and will go with a free-2-play game over a paid option, they are just THAT cheap, if bioware are this stupid to do this, they might as well just shut down the game, because the game will be dead within a single month of F2P.

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Liquidacid
07.31.2012 , 04:26 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by vandana_ View Post
play a game of league of legends and see what kind of audience f2p crowd is.
have you played an MMO? go look at what kind of audience any one has... the P2P community is not one iota better than a F2P one... still 90 percent douches

F2P with a shop seems to be the new standard model for MMOs... could have figured that out by the fact every single P2P MMO released in the last few years either went F2P or dropped into obscurity with tiny *** populations

either learn to embrace the change in the market or get out
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vojinsa
07.31.2012 , 04:27 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Liquidacid View Post
have you played an MMO? go look at what kind of audience any one has... the P2P community is not one iota better than a F2P one... still 90 percent douches

F2P with a shop seems to be the new standard model for MMOs... could have figured that out by the fact every single P2P MMO released in the last few years either went F2P or dropped into obscurity with tiny *** populations

either learn to embrace the change in the market or get out
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DamageCorp
07.31.2012 , 04:27 PM | #58
MEH,

I will play untill bored with the game then find something else. Though the "OMG its the end of the world. I quit" posts are fun to read
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BlackTalos
07.31.2012 , 04:28 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Pigdaddy View Post
F2P till level 50?.

Congrats you've just killed swtor.
Agreed, I hope you re-consider the whole F2Play option. Trials until lvl 15 (even 30 if you want) should be enough to get those "new players"...

If Swtor looks like Lotro, i will be quite disgusted...

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Xenosapien
07.31.2012 , 04:29 PM | #60
If the transition to F2P kills this game I will never forgive EA, this change has obviously come from them. I waited almost a decade for SWTOR to be released and now it comes down to what brings the dollars in. For the amount of time it has been out this game has more content, class and social 'scene' than ANY other mmo.

The doomsayers and flaming forum children will always spout negativity, but if you love this game...like I do, KEEP ON SUBBING or if not KEEP ON PLAYING! The only people that will keep the game alive are you, the players, and for F2P to work, and more content to be released...there needs to be a reason to release it. I for one will keep playing and subbing, until either this new announcement come to fruition, ruins the game and it becomes a f2p ghost like the countless others, or all of the people jumping ship now make EA bring the boot down further....