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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option

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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option
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Mysteran
07.31.2012 , 08:31 PM | #261
I just wanted to add my voice to those against this change. I have gone through games in the past that moved from the subscription model to a hybrid and ultimately to a pure F2P or might as well be F2P.

I can't stand the microtransaction model and what it stands for. It is an attempt to nickel and dime the players out of every cent they can. The hybrid model even more so than a regular F2P model since even the "subscribers" that have "access to everything in game for their subscription" still have to pay for things on the store.

Ignoring the slippery slope argument, one of the things that annoy me the most about a move from subscription to hybrid/F2P is that every single one of these "fluff" or "social" items that is added to the shop could have instead been added to the game in some way. An obscure quest, part of the normal quest lines, a clicky way off the beaten path. Something that gives a player a sense of accomplishment and that feeling of "I played the game and I got this item" which, in my opinion, is what these games should be about.

I'm not saying I'm quitting for now. I'm sticking around only because a very close friend I play the game with wants to stay. But the very first time I see this big button or advertisement show up while I play that pushes the microtransaction store on me I will make serious arguments for leaving.

I enthusiastically hope you and your enthusiastic team rethink this extremely controversial change in business model. I really do believe that this will do more harm than good to the game and what is left of the image of BW/EA.

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Witnezz
07.31.2012 , 08:32 PM | #262
Quote: Originally Posted by CourtneyWoods View Post
[color=#f9d648]Executive Producer Jeff Hickman addresses the fans about our Free-to-Play announcement:

I want to reach out today to share my thoughts on our recent announcement to expand our game to offer a Free-To-Play option this fall. Id like to give you some insights into why we made this decision, how it benefits you and how enthusiastic our team is about this new direction.

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You and your enthusiastic team can take a long hard suck on my @rse ... F2P=Cancelled
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thesaltman
07.31.2012 , 08:32 PM | #263
Anyone else find it funny that people are trashing SWTOR for going F2P and saying "I'm out. F2P ruins games. I'm going to go play Guild Wars 2"? Do these same people realize that GW2 is...wait for it...F2P as well, and GW1 was also F2P and very succesful? Heres just a shot in the dark everyone. Before we all look into our crystal balls and see the future of ToR why dont we just *gulp* give it a shot and see what happens. Worse case scenario, it goes F2P, you dont like it, uninstall it and no harm done since you stopped paying money at that point anyways. Best case, it brings the game to life. F2P has worked for a few games. Not saying I like the idea, but at least give it a shot

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AshlaBoga
07.31.2012 , 08:35 PM | #264
I actually feel this is the best case scenario.

SWTOR's biggest problem is the incredible lack of content updates.
I stopped playing PvP when I hit Valour 50 because I couldn't take doing the same 4 WZs over and over and over.

I'm getting bored of Nightmare Pilgrim and HM EC and I've been bored of Nightmare EV/KP for a while now.

The meat of SWTOR really is leveling 8 toons. With the new payment option I can level my toons and when new content is released buy a time card and beat the new content on them.

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Mysteran
07.31.2012 , 08:37 PM | #265
Quote: Originally Posted by thesaltman View Post
Anyone else find it funny that people are trashing SWTOR for going F2P and saying "I'm out. F2P ruins games. I'm going to go play Guild Wars 2"? Do these same people realize that GW2 is...wait for it...F2P as well, and GW1 was also F2P and very succesful?
I'm not one of the ones saying this and have never tried the GW games at all. But I think one of the points of this is the game was designed from the ground up to fit that model whereas in this case we are having the subscription model changed on us in an already existing environment. With GW you know you are going into that from the start. Here we have people that are invested in their characters and communities that are being forced to accept the change.

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Lindorandir
07.31.2012 , 08:38 PM | #266
I was going to write this long windy post about the evils of free2play, the horrors of bringing real world capitalism so forcefully into a gaming environment, and the apparent shift in BioWare (or EA perhaps?) doctrine from "making the greatest game ever" to "making as much money as possible"... Instead ill just jump to my bottom line conclusions:

If subscribers have access to 100% of the game, why would they want or need these cartel tokens?

There will be desirable perks available only through the store; store exclusives such as speeders and cosmetics etc. The moment I have to decide between buying these tokens or not enjoying the game to the max, I've lost the game.

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thesaltman
07.31.2012 , 08:42 PM | #267
Quote: Originally Posted by Mysteran View Post
I'm not one of the ones saying this and have never tried the GW games at all. But I think one of the points of this is the game was designed from the ground up to fit that model whereas in this case we are having the subscription model changed on us in an already existing environment. With GW you know you are going into that from the start. Here we have people that are invested in their characters and communities that are being forced to accept the change.
No disrespect, but no one is getting "forced" to do anything. Its a game just like any other. Personally, I love the game and wish it stayed a sub. But people werent subscribing and they were losing the numbers too drastically. I had a feeling that was going to happen when I would just look threw the forums, see peoples questions and complaints and see threads of complaints as big as 80+ pages and no Bioware response. At that point, I knew the game was in trouble, since bad CS is the first sign of a companys downfall. Now, they have to fix it and get people back into the game. Again, I dont like the idea, but I dont see what other choices they have.

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nomoregoodnames
07.31.2012 , 08:43 PM | #268
I will admit it is sad not even see this game last a year before essentially throwing in the towel. I mean everyone knew it was inevitable. I do remain hopeful however, I will stay subbed just so I can get cool stuff and features. Depending on what GW2 delivers and whether Bioware gets their act together and pulls this game out of it's death bed which IT IS in no matter what you hear will dictate whether I stay or go. Because regardless, I will choose a Star Wars MMO over another Fantasy orc and goblin MMO. I have faith in Bioware but I will admit, the faith is dying quicker than ever.

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platinumimp
07.31.2012 , 08:44 PM | #269
Just cancelled my subscription, and my daughter and son's subscription. This is the last time a MMO will burn me when it first comes out. When the next hot subscription MMO comes out, I will wait 6 months and play for free. Good luck bio, you just lost 3 more, but we will be back for Free Fall; why not, we can play till lvl 50.

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kRUZH
07.31.2012 , 08:45 PM | #270
This is... insane...