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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option

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Announcing a Free-to-Play Option
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exsnowboarder
08.08.2012 , 12:19 PM | #991
I dont understand why there is a great deal of negative comments, yeah i understand the free the play might not be the best idea as it has done some damage to previous MMO's, but in all fairness this game is slowly dieing, each day less and less people are online and its a shame. the game has a brilliant storyline and endless amount of entertainment. im all for the F2P at least we'll get some more people into the game. as long as F2P allows whispers and flashpoints, and grouping im happy.

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nakoda
08.08.2012 , 01:56 PM | #992
Quote: Originally Posted by exsnowboarder View Post
I dont understand why there is a great deal of negative comments, yeah i understand the free the play might not be the best idea as it has done some damage to previous MMO's, but in all fairness this game is slowly dieing, each day less and less people are online and its a shame. the game has a brilliant storyline and endless amount of entertainment. im all for the F2P at least we'll get some more people into the game. as long as F2P allows whispers and flashpoints, and grouping im happy.
the problem is that F2P is not a solution that actually benefits gamers in the long run. it benefits shareholders and focus groups.

All of the links people keep posting in defense of F2P all say the same thing: F2P means more revenue for EA.

I have seen nothing, NOTHING, that supports an overall increase in game play experience for gamers outside of more readily available vanity options and P2W items. (yes, I am aware that we do no know yet what the Cartel store has to offer, thusly we can only make our projections based upon previous experience and other MMOs that have gone F2P).

Subscribers were dropping and saying "didn't want to pay the monthly fee" because they did not feel that they were receiving their monies worth any more, not because they wanted the game to go F2P. However, thanks to marketing "geniuses," "analysts," and "professionals," former subscriber complaints translated into "LETS GO F2P!!!"

,,, bollucks.
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An Article About F2P

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companyoflosers
08.08.2012 , 02:23 PM | #993
Wow! people were seriously not paying attention when they first caught wind of the F2P thing. They took it so personal too, like everything they don't agree with was bioware trying to be spiteful directly t them or something. honestly though, you guys need to cool off a bit. if you don't think it's worth $15 a month to keep playing after this decision then just go, don't try to drag everyone else with you. true fans of the star wars universe will stay and continue to make sure the game is great. we don't need people who are constantly going to drag us and the developers down. On that note congrats to all the true fans who are willing to stay and continue making the game awesome. I seriously can't help but look forward to getting home from work each night and getting on to meet up with my guild and the fans who do the most contributing to the game in a constructive manner are all to thank for it!

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Ryshard
08.08.2012 , 02:24 PM | #994
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I have seen nothing, NOTHING, that supports an overall increase in game play experience for gamers outside of more readily available vanity options and P2W items.
Well said mate. This whole new business thing is doing my head in and I'm sick of hearing how this will either bring in more subscribers or make EA more money because of the 'new MMO business models'.

I couldn't give a **** tbh..

All I want to know is what new content is coming and how much better the game will be... Stop throwing the idea of us spending money in our faces EA, we want a better gaming experience from gaming not from wasting money...

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companyoflosers
08.08.2012 , 02:31 PM | #995
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Gotta say Im not thrilled by this announcement. I think F2P will kill SWTOR in multiple ways, including pissing off the subscribers by now allowing the pain in the asses of the world hop on the game, screw with everyone, then leave.

Also, what exactly am I paying for? I've been a constant sub since launch, I want to know what exactly is in it for subs, not a vague


I want to know that flashpoints, operations, warzones, and GTN are subs only. They should not be left open to the public.
Well they have stated what exactly is included in subscriptions on the sight, you just have to actually go look at it. just off the top of my head i believe they said operations are sub only, endgame items are sub only. subs don't have to purchase cartel tokens, we get a certain amount per month plus what we get from being subscribed since the beginning in addition to the extra you get if you bought the collector's edition. after that I think they said non subs can only do certain WZ levels, certain flashpoints, and even those they can only do a certain number of them per week and I bet they can't do hard modes either. only certain races will be available for unsubbed people as well. that's just a few I can remember but you should really actually go look at the article, there's a chart and everything that shows the differences between subbed an unsubbed. plus playing the story mode to 50 is only half the game.

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Ryshard
08.08.2012 , 02:32 PM | #996
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we don't need people who are constantly going to drag us and the developers down.
If you agree with everything Devs do then the game won't ever get better for gamers. You can throw your loyalty around like a kingsguard all you like but it's only yourself your damaging.

Constructive criticism is designed to let the Devs understand exactly what their current fan base actually wants. And in my opinion, they haven't taken the current players into account at all in this decision. Unless you can tell me exactly how F2P will benefit the current community? And I don't mean the obvious: 'they'll be more players online'.

This decision is to make more money... simples

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Ryshard
08.08.2012 , 02:36 PM | #997
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subs don't have to purchase cartel tokens, we get a certain amount per month
This sentence contradicts itself.

If subs don't have to buy the tokens then why do they only get a CERTAIN amount? Why not an infinite amount?

mmm... Suspicious

Oh I know. Because people with more money will still have the advantage of having better stuff, whether it's only cosmetic or not they'll be expecting subs to spend extra cash...

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plus playing the story mode to 50 is only half the game.
If half the game is free, does that mean that subs should be half the cash?

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Thradar
08.08.2012 , 04:30 PM | #998
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My only concern is really is when are you guys going to add in same-gender romance options.
Really? This is the ONLY concern you have about this game?

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CLuTcHMaChiiNe
08.08.2012 , 05:09 PM | #999
F2P to level 50? i dont think thats a good idea at all! and putting this token thing in to get game content that us subs get i think is unfair. i think a free to play option should be added, but not to 50. also what is this content that they will have access too? SWTOR shouldnt make F2P just because they "dropped the ball" right out of the front door. BioWare you are making a mistake by doing this. yes you will get more population to play your game, but how many people will stop paying so they can play for free for little limitations. as more people stop paying the more crap the updates will get (not like they havnt already)
May the Force be with you.

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Dark_Stormy
08.08.2012 , 07:00 PM | #1000
o well after paying full price at launch for the game. o well another fked game i am leaving going to GW2 sub runs out in 9 days not renewing it i hate FTP games, they end up costing you way more then $15 a month . MMORPGs will have to get better or the whole industry will die. ( just my 2 cents worth} good buy? NOT.