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[Guide] The Watchmen and Combat PvE basics

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[Guide] The Watchmen and Combat PvE basics

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BlznSmri
08.14.2012 , 11:06 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Orarr View Post
Nice work but you may want to address your description of the Insight skill under Combat, we do have more than the one Force-based attack that you have listed. Again, nice guide.
No there isn't. Not an ability that's part of the Combat priority list, everything is considered a Weapon Based or "Physical" hit (or "White" damage), not counting Blade Storm which is "Yellow" damage. The exception is my comment about Cauterize which isn't a priority and only something I use when fighting a boss that moves around frequently (Toth, Kephess, certain Fabricator strats). Force Sweep, another Force based attack, once again "Yellow" damage, is used infrequently, usually only during certain phases in which there are multiple adds that need to be AoE'd down (Trandoshan bubbles on Kephess, dogs on Gharj) and the long CD and relatively low damage (Highest I've done in Combat is around 2.4k crit) puts an axe in it in terms of usefulness. The only other Force based attacks that I can think of off the top of my head are Opportune Strike and Pommel Strike, which can only be used against enemies that can be snared or stunned, which, with the exceptions of adds, are rarely stunned and more effectively AoE'd down by your Ranged DPS.


But if your group is weird and runs with four melee, effectively making content harder on you, you can throw those last two sentences out the window.
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Aurojiin
08.14.2012 , 01:20 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by BlznSmri View Post
The only other Force based attacks that I can think of off the top of my head are Opportune Strike and Pommel Strike
Ataru procs.

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BlznSmri
08.14.2012 , 06:20 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurojiin View Post
Ataru procs.
Those are "Physical" now. White damage ever since 1.2.


Let me put it simply.

If it does "White" damage, it is not a Force or Tech based attack.
If it does "Yellow" damage, it IS a Force or Tech based attack.
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LagunaD
08.14.2012 , 06:51 PM | #24
Force Stasis and Rebuke are the other two Force abilities. Neither of those really justifies further investment in Insight, either.
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BlznSmri
08.14.2012 , 07:11 PM | #25
Yup, I think Sentinels actually have the least Force/ Tech based of any class...
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Aurojiin
08.16.2012 , 03:43 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by BlznSmri View Post
Those are "Physical" now. White damage ever since 1.2.
Well, that's stupid.

And I was unaware of the change to the AC, not how flytext colours work

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BlznSmri
08.17.2012 , 04:56 AM | #27
Just trying to be thorough in my answers.

Edit: Did some parsing and with my current gear (in combat spec/ ataru form), Focus is just not comparable with Combat and Watchman in a PvE environment based on singe target DPS.

My Focus spec and parse with 1255 dps at 360s.

My Combat spec and parse with 1603 dps at 360s.

My Watchman spec and parse with 1479 dps at 360s.

I parsed with full raid buffs, Zen, Inspiration and Exotech stim (my strength is 2071 with the stim), however I'm going to test Watchman again with three points in Steadfast over Insight because I only have 6% accuracy from gear, 1% from legacy buff, and I'm curious what the difference between 3% more accuracy vs 6% more crit would be. I also believe the parse for Focus would be higher if I had more accuracy, but I seriously doubt that 6% - 8% more accuracy will net a 340 dps increase.
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BlznSmri
08.29.2012 , 10:41 AM | #28
Bumping so that this thread does not fall by the way side.
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Myriandore
09.06.2012 , 08:02 AM | #29
finally some clear info
bump!

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zipsfan
09.08.2012 , 01:32 PM | #30
bump for sticky. +10 for guide, this will help for when my sent hits 50 (finally made one).