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Official F2P Announcement

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belizar
07.31.2012 , 03:40 PM | #511
Quote: Originally Posted by ProsaicProse View Post
All that voice work and RPG style storytelling that brought people and kept them engaged in the game will probably be the first thing on the chopping block as it's probably going to be unsustainable in a f2p game. The one thing I noticed with all the f2p games I tried was the mediocre quality I witnessed; I can't imagine any of them putting out the sort of stuff we are (were?) used to in SWTOR.
there was nvr going to be updated stories until an xpac nothing has changed, they charge u for the xpac sub or not to continue your story

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Vicen
07.31.2012 , 03:40 PM | #512
Elder Scrolls MMO here I come!
Swooping...is...bad...

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JefferyClark
07.31.2012 , 03:40 PM | #513
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Cant happen unless they change IP, EA ip blocks banned accounts.
Yeah, cause ISPs like Comcast don't ever change your IP address.

Unless you buy a static IP from them, your IP address can change every 24 hours.
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Goretzu
07.31.2012 , 03:41 PM | #514
Quote: Originally Posted by ProsaicProse View Post
All that voice work and RPG style storytelling that brought people and kept them engaged in the game will probably be the first thing on the chopping block as it's probably going to be unsustainable in a f2p game. The one thing I noticed with all the f2p games I tried was the mediocre quality I witnessed; I can't imagine any of them putting out the sort of stuff we are (were?) used to in SWTOR.
Aye voiced quests are expensive, and that makes little sense in a F2P enviroment where really they want money for old rope if possible.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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islander
07.31.2012 , 03:41 PM | #515
From the conference call notes:

"Free-to-play is EA’s fastest growing business model, with year-over-year revenues that are up
156 percent. And while this already makes up 17 percent of our overall revenue in Q1, the
compound annual growth rate is significantly outpacing the overall market."


I bet this is the driving factor behind this decision. They really believe they'll make more money by doing this. I guess time will tell.
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JefferyClark
07.31.2012 , 03:43 PM | #516
Quote: Originally Posted by Primalooze View Post
Having been through a subscription to free to play episode with a mmorpg game before i joined swtor i can acuratly predict how it will go..

1) DAY 1 - everything starts out ok... subscriber numbers ok.. influx of new players who spend money on f2p content. Devs put very strick limits on what f2p can do and everybody seems happy.

2) DAY 30 - subscribers start to get annoyed when f2p players start to get cool new stuff that CAN ONLY be purchased with coins. New armor is released that "looks better" that stuff subscribers can get.

3) DAY 90 - All interesting fluff stuff becomes f2p and requires extra cash to purchase. Developers stop adding in fluff stuff at all for subscribers who universally get basic armor/weapon models while all the cool stuff goes straight onto the market for quick cash rewards.

4) DAY 100 - subscribers nearly all cancel thier subs. f2p coins prices start to raise and content becomes more basic and cheaper of quality.

least that how it happened in everquest2. There is currently no new fluff content you have to buy it all... they also give you station cash.... but its a pitiful amount and only really allows you to purchase 1 item a month (out of a possible 2000) my email started to get spammed with "please come and by this cool mount" on a weekly basis.

F2P can work... but not alongside a subscription model because BW wont be able to resist putting the best stuff on the market. Its either one or the other.
This is what is going on in STO too. Everything "new/cool" goes into the cash shop because then it earns them more money.
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Slant_DK
07.31.2012 , 03:43 PM | #517
Hahaha.

@Bioware: We told ya. You didn't listen. This is what happens when you ignore the fanbase. You've become a fallen angel, going from masterpieces like BG2 to this... how does it feel at your personal all time low? Time to get back to the roots, buddies.

@Every other gaming company: Make a deal with EA, and you die. I hope you're taking notes, this is the prime example.

Peace, I'm out. Have been for 5 months, actually. Just had to get back to say this. Sorry to all the players that still play here, don't take this personally.

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cologator
07.31.2012 , 03:45 PM | #518
many people claim you have to pay for much of the content in lotro ... this is far from the truth .. you can EARN tp (turbine points) as a f2p account and use those EARNED points the same way as points people paid for and there are quite a few gimmicks to earn alot of points and get the stuff for FREE FREE bank space .. auction house slots cosmetic slots more character slots .. i did it long before i dropped a dime into the game and only paid anything cause one of the big quest packs went on sale and i was short a few hundred points ... spending that tiny bit of money got me even more perks + points and i still never went VIP account

i don't know whether this is the way bioware plans on implementing the coins .. but i for one hope not

pay for the perks you want or get out

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Galvatron
07.31.2012 , 03:46 PM | #519
Quote: Originally Posted by JefferyClark View Post
Yeah, cause ISPs like Comcast don't ever change your IP address.

Unless you buy a static IP from them, your IP address can change every 24 hours.
It but rarely doesnt..
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AidenCast
07.31.2012 , 03:46 PM | #520
Quote: Originally Posted by islander View Post
From the conference call notes:

"Free-to-play is EA’s fastest growing business model, with year-over-year revenues that are up
156 percent. And while this already makes up 17 percent of our overall revenue in Q1, the
compound annual growth rate is significantly outpacing the overall market."


I bet this is the driving factor behind this decision. They really believe they'll make more money by doing this. I guess time will tell.
They probably will in the short term. From what I've seen in other games that made the change, it doesn't take that long before they forget the old adage about biting the hand that feeds you.
Cancelled 1/8/12
RIP TOR - Another casualty of F2P