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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 04:58 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by Roalmo View Post
This doesn't even deserve a directed response. Go back under your rock.
LoL. Yea that's what I thought, buddy. have a nice one.
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."

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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 04:59 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
That's pure speculation on your part. How do you know how many hours someone who pays 15 a month in NA/EU plays in comparison to someone who uses tokens? You don't.

My wow account has been active for whats going on 4 years, but I definitely don't have 4years of total playing time. there's been times I've went months without playing, but still kept it active. The point is what you are saying is just speculation.
... Ok, I see, you're trolling. This post you just made right here, does not in any way shape or form refute anything in the post you quoted. Nothing you said was in any way even RELATED to what I said. So I'm not sure why you even quoted me.

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 05:01 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
... Ok, I see, you're trolling. This post you just made right here, does not in any way shape or form refute anything in the post you quoted. Nothing you said was in any way even RELATED to what I said. So I'm not sure why you even quoted me.
You're joking right? You said...."They are not equivalent in the benefit they bring to the community, nor are they equivalent in the benefit they bring the parent company."

So what benefit to the community were you referring to if it isn't playing time? And what benefit to the company are you referring to if it isn't money?
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 05:06 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
That's pure speculation on your part. How do you know how many hours someone who pays 15 a month in NA/EU plays in comparison to someone who uses tokens? You don't.

My wow account has been active for whats going on 4 years, but I definitely don't have 4years of total playing time. there's been times I've went months without playing, but still kept it active. The point is what you are saying is just speculation.
Exaclty. Some will post false info about WoW because they have a personal hatred for it. Plain and simple. And when you continue to refute it, they will jump on something personal about you, like your misspelling or tell you to go crawl back under a rock. It is this type of childish behavior which makes me use the ignore feature rather quickly.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 05:08 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
You're joking right? You said...."They are not equivalent in the benefit they bring to the community, nor are they equivalent in the benefit they bring the parent company."

So what benefit to the community were you referring to if it isn't playing time? And what benefit to the company are you referring to if it isn't money?
"World of Warcraft subscription revenues were down due to a lower subscriber base year-over-year."
"Lower revenues and higher costs of service in our Asian Markets have compacted this issue"

http://investor.activision.com/secfi...264&CIK=718877

Read the freaking investor reports. One Asian player takes up more system resources and pays in less money. This is admitted to and known and factored into operating costs and financial forecasts by BLIZZARD itself.

Are you honestly trying to argue that an Asian player pays as much money to access the game as an NA/EU player? That's why I think you're trolling. You have no idea what you're talking about. Look up the figures, do some reading. All this information is readily available and published by Blizzard itself. No second hand data, no MMOCHAMP, no blogs.

Asian subs are more likely to be operating in an illegitimate manner, they are more likely to be bots/gold farmers, gold sellers, and spammers. This isn't conjecture, this is fact.

They bring in less money and cost more to sustain. Worse for Blizzard.
They are more likely to have a negative impact on in game economy and behave against the TOS. Worse for players. But please, ignore Blizzard's own statements on this, it's not like THEY'D know anything about it...

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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 05:10 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Exaclty. Some will post false info about WoW because they have a personal hatred for it. Plain and simple. And when you continue to refute it, they will jump on something personal about you, like your misspelling or tell you to go crawl back under a rock. It is this type of childish behavior which makes me use the ignore feature rather quickly.
YOU are the one that tried to jump on me for my grammar, I showed that you were the one that was wrong, yet you still bring that up. I linked facts, evidence, direct information to you, not conjecture. You simply tried to ignore it and move on instead of addressing it. But tell yourself whatever you want.

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 05:16 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
"World of Warcraft subscription revenues were down due to a lower subscriber base year-over-year."
"Lower revenues and higher costs of service in our Asian Markets have compacted this issue"

http://investor.activision.com/secfi...264&CIK=718877

Read the freaking investor reports. One Asian player takes up more system resources and pays in less money. This is admitted to and known and factored into operating costs and financial forecasts by BLIZZARD itself.

Are you honestly trying to argue that an Asian player pays as much money to access the game as an NA/EU player? That's why I think you're trolling. You have no idea what you're talking about. Look up the figures, do some reading. All this information is readily available and published by Blizzard itself. No second hand data, no MMOCHAMP, no blogs.

Asian subs are more likely to be operating in an illegitimate manner, they are more likely to be bots/gold farmers, gold sellers, and spammers. This isn't conjecture, this is fact.

They bring in less money and cost more to sustain. Worse for Blizzard.
They are more likely to have a negative impact on in game economy and behave against the TOS. Worse for players. But please, ignore Blizzard's own statements on this, it's not like THEY'D know anything about it...
Alright? So the Asian market doesn't pay as much. They still pay, tho. Am I right? Therefore they are still counted as a source of income. Blizzard may state all of that, but there has to be a reason right? If it's pure loss in revenue they wouldn't be operating in that market anymore.

Saying that something is more likely to do something than something else is just conjecture. I can give you a web address for a Canadian ran gold farming site. Do you want it? I bet you weren't thinking Canadians are more likely to do anything.

Saying something is more likely doesn't prove anything and it also doesn't speak for that entire population. I can point you in the direction of a Korean guild that got world-first heroic spine, but they were probably just taking a break from their gold farming operations right?
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 05:22 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
Alright? So the Asian market doesn't pay as much. They still pay, tho. Am I right? Therefore they are still counted as a source of income. Blizzard may state all of that, but there has to be a reason right? If it's pure loss in revenue they wouldn't be operating in that market anymore.

Saying that something is more likely to do something than something else is just conjecture. I can give you a web address for a Canadian ran gold farming site. Do you want it? I bet you weren't thinking Canadians are more likely to do anything.

Saying something is more likely doesn't prove anything and it also doesn't speak for that entire population. I can point you in the direction of a Korean guild that got world-first heroic spine, but they were probably just taking a break from their gold farming operations right?
Excellent points. But I have a feeling you are wasting your time with that poster.
Trust is something which is earned.

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 05:29 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Excellent points. But I have a feeling you are wasting your time with that poster.
Yea... I'm actually exhausted with this topic. I don't even know why we are discussing Blizzard to begin with.

To get back on topic..I will say Over 300k @ around 700k.
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."

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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 05:30 PM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Excellent points. But I have a feeling you are wasting your time with that poster.
None of those are excellent points and they do not refute or even address any of the arguments I made. How about you go back to misquoting me and ignoring me when I call you out on your incorrect data.