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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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Roalmo
07.27.2012 , 04:44 PM | #321
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
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Free Trials are considered Trial accounts. How can nobody grasp that concept?

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But my friend, they are "active" accounts, and can be reported as such by EA without lying to the government/shareholders.

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 04:47 PM | #322
Quote: Originally Posted by Roalmo View Post
This is what wow does with its Asian accounts, so why not?
Not to the degree you are implying. The poster you quoted was refering to FTP trial accounts to level 15.
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cipero
07.27.2012 , 04:51 PM | #323
Quote: Originally Posted by Roalmo View Post
They are NOT time cards that run out. They still exist even if have only a nickel on them.
All you are doing is trying to give some sort of reasoning that since Chinese government permits a different type of structure for online acquisitions, that it shouldn't be a valid source. If that were the case, then Blizzard wouldn't be able to operate there since there'd be no way to sell their product.

All of this "well it's Asian so it doesn't count" is basically discrimination at the very least. Just because one country goes about something a different way then the other doesn't necessarily mean your way is any better.

If there is a currency transaction than the account is active and therefore accounted for in earnings calls. It would be deceptive and fraudulent not to include money they have earned.
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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 04:51 PM | #324
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Not to the degree you are implying. The poster you quoted was refering to FTP trial accounts to level 15.

Yes, they do. I don't know why you come here to fanboy WoW, but it just looks silly, and since you're wrong, it looks sad as well.

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Roalmo
07.27.2012 , 04:51 PM | #325
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Not to the degree you are implying. The poster you quoted was refering to FTP trial accounts to level 15.
Sigh..

If lawyers can argue over what "is" means, they sure can twist "accounts, "subscriptions" and other words to the benefit of their clients. Especially in quarterly reports.

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 04:52 PM | #326
Quote: Originally Posted by Roalmo View Post
But my friend, they are "active" accounts, and can be reported as such by EA without lying to the government/shareholders.
No..they aren't active....

Trial Account.
Active Account.

Two separate things. One pays, the other doesn't. The only thing effected by trial accounts is server activity.
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 04:53 PM | #327
Quote: Originally Posted by Roalmo View Post
But that day would soon pass, say in 24hours, and the one using it would no longer be counted as a sub.

Whereas, the unused "token" could last forever, and still be counted.
I have never did a time card to play a online game. But I assumed if you buy one for 30 days play time and stop at 29 days, you would still have 1 day left. So your saying it is not for 30 days play time, but limited to 30 days from the date you buy them? If so..what a ripoff!...lol.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Durasturan
07.27.2012 , 04:54 PM | #328
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
All you are doing is trying to give some sort of reasoning that since Chinese government permits a different type of structure for online acquisitions, that it shouldn't be a valid source. If that were the case, then Blizzard wouldn't be able to operate there since there'd be no way to sell their product.

All of this "well it's Asian so it doesn't count" is basically discrimination at the very least. Just because one country goes about something a different way then the other doesn't necessarily mean your way is any better.

If there is a currency transaction than the account is active and therefore accounted for in earnings calls. It would be deceptive and fraudulent not to include money they have earned.
Trying to pass one off as EQUIVALENT to the other is the problem. One Asian sub DOES NOT EQUAL one NA/EU sub.

They are not equivalent in the benefit they bring to the community, nor are they equivalent in the benefit they bring the parent company. They are not the same. IN THE SAME WAY that a level 15 starter account in SWTOR does not provide the same benefit as a level 50 subbed player in SWTOR.

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Roalmo
07.27.2012 , 04:55 PM | #329
Quote: Originally Posted by cipero View Post
All you are doing is trying to give some sort of reasoning that since Chinese government permits a different type of structure for online acquisitions, that it shouldn't be a valid source. If that were the case, then Blizzard wouldn't be able to operate there since there'd be no way to sell their product.

All of this "well it's Asian so it doesn't count" is basically discrimination at the very least. Just because one country goes about something a different way then the other doesn't necessarily mean your way is any better.

If there is a currency transaction than the account is active and therefore accounted for in earnings calls. It would be deceptive and fraudulent not to include money they have earned.
This doesn't even deserve a directed response. Go back under your rock.

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cipero
07.27.2012 , 04:57 PM | #330
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
Trying to pass one off as EQUIVALENT to the other is the problem. One Asian sub DOES NOT EQUAL one NA/EU sub.

They are not equivalent in the benefit they bring to the community, nor are they equivalent in the benefit they bring the parent company. They are not the same. IN THE SAME WAY that a level 15 starter account in SWTOR does not provide the same benefit as a level 50 subbed player in SWTOR.
That's pure speculation on your part. How do you know how many hours someone who pays 15 a month in NA/EU plays in comparison to someone who uses tokens? You don't.

My wow account has been active for whats going on 4 years, but I definitely don't have 4years of total playing time. there's been times I've went months without playing, but still kept it active. The point is what you are saying is just speculation.
"I have continued on through the cold, misty woods, breaking a path that is simple for my feet to find."