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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 08:07 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
yes they very much can. If a player is unsure about trying a game even for free they still might not download the 30 gig game to even try it out for free.

Should this happen? No

Does this happen? Yes
So maybe all the haters and fanboiz should not say anything unless they have 100% absolute proof about anything. If they think its a bug they shouldnt post untill they are 100% absolutely sure it is. They can get this by getting an official statement from Bioware confirming it is and that its safe to then post in the forums. Then we can let Bioware do all the posting here so the new players can only get information that is straight from Bioware.

Wouldnt the forums be a lonly place then
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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TheLordMagnus
07.27.2012 , 08:08 AM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
They are educated guesses. The guesses are from collecting data to determine the thresholds for each level by taking the high of light and the low of standard and narrowing down the posible number it could be. Also determining who made errors and gave false information. The person who listed heavy as 850 would be an example of that case.

The only reason you wont accept it is because you dont like the number that has came from it. Even though you have no data at all to dispute it.

I know if the formula showed 1.6 million subs you would somehow accept it then since its a number that is better for the game.

Again its not 100% accurate but it is close enough with a margin of error to give a general sub rate.
subs are low but your maths are as well for this 1 reason
when they directed server mergers they did pacthing to increases server pops and the number each one could hold so now server numbers are inaccurate and there has been no info on what the new pop limit was made this has been the cause of many of the latest lag issues and spiking
i will say guessing only that we have around 700k subs with 500k every day players
i being subed but not playing every day cos im bored and the games lacked and direction and yes im a swg fan
but i was a bigger swtor fan and this game could have been way better
great story line tho ill give them that the story god dam rocks
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jarjarloves
07.27.2012 , 08:09 AM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
So maybe all the haters and fanboiz should not say anything unless they have 100% absolute proof about anything. If they think its a bug they shouldnt post untill they are 100% absolutely sure it is. They can get this by getting an official statement from Bioware confirming it is and that its safe to then post in the forums. Then we can let Bioware do all the posting here so the new players can only get information that is straight from Bioware.

Wouldnt the forums be a lonly place then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 08:10 AM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
I dont even think they have a Q&A session. Instead the call is prepaired beforehand.

If they can ask questions I think they can give the answer they want to (not directly lie but say we have this many people playing the game and not say we have this many subs and this many trials. Also after they answer the question the way they want I imagine its a next question and someone picks who the question is from so they can avoid a follow up question to get the answer they really wanted.
Lol! sounds like someone knows the inter- corporate workings and the politics involved. I know also...was in management for over 20 years in a company which makes EA look like small potatoes. But the same principles apply in both cases.
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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 08:11 AM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by TheLordMagnus View Post
subs are low but your maths are as well for this 1 reason
when they directed server mergers they did pacthing to increases server pops and the number each one could hold so now server numbers are inaccurate and there has been no info on what the new pop limit was made this has been the cause of many of the latest lag issues and spiking
i will say guessing only that we have around 700k subs with 500k every day players
i being subed but not playing every day cos im bored and the games lacked and direction and yes im a swg fan
but i was a bigger swtor fan and this game could have been way better thats it problem
great story line tho ill give them that the story god dam rocks
First the data in the post I linked before has the data from numbers taken after the merge.

Also I have to find it but Bioware(I think it was DE) said that the mega servers or whatever you want to call it wouldnt be done until part 2 or later and no where stated or implied that it would be done before part 2. Also we know part 2 has not begun yet. I will try to find the interview with a time on it.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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mangarrage
07.27.2012 , 08:22 AM | #196
Well the fact still remains that the number they report is inaccurate when they report it.
A person who's sub ends August 17th (which is anyone who started with a 6 month sub or 2x 3 months) and arent playing will be in their number.
A good number of people who I played with dont even log on but they are an "active" sub until 8/17
So the number although accurate will not really relect actuality
3rd quarter will include ftp, so that number will be inflated as well

They certainly have gone down since last figures, I think it is unrealistic to think otherwise and their 3rd wuarter numbers will be abysmal even with the ftp

But they will report a bigger number then people think just because it will represent the 3m and 6m subs still, so I imagine 700k but in actuality it is closer to 500k, 3rd quarter will be worse

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DarthTHC
07.27.2012 , 08:39 AM | #197
The two numbers I'd really like to see:

How many people have tried the 15-day free to play?
What percentage of 15-day free to play accounts transition into paid accounts?

If they can give a decent number (thousands per week?) to the first and a high percentage (45% would be really, really good) to the second, that would be amazing news for the game.

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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 08:40 AM | #198
Here is the video where he days they have done mega servers.

http://www.swtorstrategies.com/2012/...y-torwars.html

At about 3 minute mark of part 2

He states phase 1 is the transfer and then states they are working on the technology for mega servers but then later on he say it will take a long time.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 08:43 AM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Here is the video where he days they have done mega servers.

http://www.swtorstrategies.com/2012/...y-torwars.html

At about 3 minute mark of part 2

He states phase 1 is the transfer and then states they are working on the technology for mega servers but then later on he say it will take a long time.
Considering how long it takes them to come out with "soon" stuff, when they say a "long" time...lol!
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Majestic_Jazz
07.27.2012 , 08:43 AM | #200
Does it really matter? Just play the game and enjoy it. If you don't enjoy it, stop playing and move along!
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