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DarthTHC
07.27.2012 , 07:47 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
the forums are for players to give feedback, and communicate with the community and for the devs to give information, not for trolls to make every thread a misery and try to drive away other players . your logic is crazy, of course a fan of swtor would use the swtor forums, do you think if i use a forum that means i have to hate the product of the forum i'm using??? you have no soncept of what a forum is for then

also do you think, i wake up switch swtor on, play, then go to bed, wake up switch swtor on play then go to bed.

there are many activity's my day consists of, and finding time to come to the forum is not a problem, but it doesn't stop me enjoying the game. i'm sure i have racked up quite a number of posts on the forums, but also i have 3 level 50s and a level 39.

wow look at that i can use the forums and play swtor, its not a choose one or the other thing for me and i still have time for my family and work. maybe hating is more time consuming than enjoying that what you do and enjoying life
So many people don't realize what the means... I feel or maybe even but definitely for the denizens of these forums.

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Thaltom
07.27.2012 , 07:48 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
You are reading too much in there. Emeda also said he/she came back with each content patch in hopes things had got better. The real reason she/he resubbed. Not to troll the forums. Stop with the personal attacks.
Not personally attacking Emeda at all. Truth be told, I'm happy to have him/her here. It means some more money went towards development...

And because I imagine that he/she is one of the most generous, kind players you can ever meet. It helps me sleep at night.
I only get paid when I survive. I like getting paid.

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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 07:49 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
So this must be a typo then...
No its not a typo. Notice before I said the forums are worth the 15 bucks I said plus and then before that I said I came back to try out 1.3?

The forums are worth 15 bucks and
The forums are worth the 15 bucks are two totally different things.

One is saying I would pay 15 bucks just to post on the forums for no reason. The other is say that I wouldnt pay just to post on the forums but since I paid already that I can get my moneys worth out of the forums anyways.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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jarjarloves
07.27.2012 , 07:54 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
So you would rather the new players only get one side of the story? From the fanboiz that say the game is growing and everything is just dandy.

I am not telling anyone not to buy the game because of me or anyone else.

All the posts are basically dirrected at Bioware and EA telling them that they can say all they want to but we dont believe them just because they said it.

Wasnt it the may call that they posted a 400k drop in subs but just a week or two before they said the subs were growing?

One thing to think about. If it wasnt for the haters then nothing would ever get fixed or added to the game. If no one complains then there is no reason to fix things or add anything because they are happy and will continue to sub right.
no we would rather have new players play the game and decide for themselves not have you make up their mind for them.


edit: Daniel Erickson said there was no change in subs. Which was foolish for him to say since he is never allowed to know the sub numbers before the earnings call. Only EA execs can know that and they have to keep it a secret otherwise they face insider trading laws and jail time.

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Arnasdam
07.27.2012 , 07:55 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
It's an investors meeting. If an investor brings it up (which they probably will) then they have to answer it.
Do they have to tell them subs? Or just the number or players? With f2p to lvl 15 there will be a difference, and the positive spin would be to go with the number of players and not subs

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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 07:57 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
no we would rather have new players play the game and decide for themselves not have you make up their mind for them.
Well now they have the F2P up to level 15 so no matter what we say the new player can play the game for him/herself. Our comments shouldnt be able to scare off people from trying out a game for free should it?
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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jarjarloves
07.27.2012 , 08:00 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Well now they have the F2P up to level 15 so no matter what we say the new player can play the game for him/herself. Our comments shouldnt be able to scare off people from trying out a game for free should it?
yes they very much can. If a player is unsure about trying a game even for free they still might not download the 30 gig game to even try it out for free.

Should this happen? No

Does this happen? Yes

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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 08:02 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Arnasdam View Post
Do they have to tell them subs? Or just the number or players? With f2p to lvl 15 there will be a difference, and the positive spin would be to go with the number of players and not subs
I dont even think they have a Q&A session. Instead the call is prepaired beforehand.

If they can ask questions I think they can give the answer they want to (not directly lie but say we have this many people playing the game and not say we have this many subs and this many trials. Also after they answer the question the way they want I imagine its a next question and someone picks who the question is from so they can avoid a follow up question to get the answer they really wanted.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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kitsinni
07.27.2012 , 08:04 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post

edit: Daniel Erickson said there was no change in subs. Which was foolish for him to say since he is never allowed to know the sub numbers before the earnings call. Only EA execs can know that and they have to keep it a secret otherwise they face insider trading laws and jail time.
Um that isn't how insider trading works. It is only insider trading if you know some information and buy or sell stocks because of that information before it is known to the public. There is no law that says he can't know the sub numbers, he just can't know that they took a dive and sell all his stock befor it was announced.
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jarjarloves
07.27.2012 , 08:06 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
Um that isn't how insider trading works. It is only insider trading if you know some information and buy or sell stocks because of that information before it is known to the public. There is no law that says he can't know the sub numbers, he just can't know that they took a dive and sell all his stock befor it was announced.
if sub numbers dropped and people in the company knew the sub number BEFORE the earnings call they could sell their EA stock. Hence insider trading.

There is a reason why even Blizz doesn't release their sub numbers every month. They only do it during quarterly reports. Sub numbers are the most closely guarded secret for MMOs. Remember they didn't even announce SWTORs sub numbers until the earnings call and even then it wasn't Bioware that released it it was EA

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