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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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Thaltom
07.27.2012 , 07:33 AM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
The only reason you wont accept it is because you dont like the number that has came from it. Even though you have no data at all to dispute it.
I don't have data to dispute it. You don't have data that can 100% disprove that there aren't 1mil subs right now. You have a formula that could be accurate within a window of possible margin of error...

And OFC I would want to see a huge sub number like 1.3+mil. I like this game, even with it's (imo) minor flaws, and I want it to succeed. I submit bug reports and post suggestions in the Suggestion box; which I feel is more useful to BW than ****posting in GD along the lines of "EA/BW state F2P is coming to TOR. Your thoughts?"
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MasterKayote
07.27.2012 , 07:33 AM | #172
lol, I still remember eveyone saying how Bioware was down below 500k or something then "oops" still had 1.3 million subs. Now theyre saying the same thing ... saying its lost even more subs than it lost last time in the same amount of time, even though the gameplay has improved tenfold since 1.3 and has actually been attracting new players.

Oh and lol at those talking like the 6 month subs are going to be incredibly significant number... you know ... because there are sooooo many people out there who'd actually shell out approximately $90 sub + $60 box price in the same month for an unproven MMO. Even those that do are obviously much more dedicated fans then any of the 1 and 3 month subbers, thus much less likely to unsub specially now that the game is much better.

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Arkerus
07.27.2012 , 07:34 AM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
You believe far too much in conspiracy theories. In order to post on these forums, people will have had to pay for the game ($60+) and to post for longer than a month, they have to buy a monthly sub.

To suggest that more than a few people would do that is just.... conspiracy theorist. And if that's how you get your kicks, there are a lot more fun and intriguing conspiracies to subscribe to than a bunch of nutjobs trying to crash an MMO.

People come here to complain because they had expectations about the game, which all boil down to it being fun for them, and the game failed to meet those expectations. Some come to vent their frustration. Some come to offer the best constructive criticism they can. Some come to warn others that the game may not be what they perceive to be either.

And once their subs run out, they stop posting. Because, really, how many people are going to pay $15 a month just to b***h on an Internet forum?
It's not a conspiracy theory, it's an observation. This is what I believe is a perfect storm of a cluster $?&$ for people to complain. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories. This is a simple observation from reading.

And if you don't think a large portion of people would LOVE to see this game fail, you are delusional. Read any other site (outside these forums) and you see the same exact backlash.

Bioware themselves talked about it at release.
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Thaltom
07.27.2012 , 07:36 AM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Yes, I'll give you that a few will do that. Maybe even a handful. Like 10 tops. That doesn't make a conspiracy. That makes a handful of people for whom we should feel sadness at the state of their lives.
I think 10 is shooting far too low. I was doing random HMs with two guys who were trolling GD while they waited for a group finder pop. I mean, c'mon, it's that common of an activity. Swtor forums are like STV in vanilla WoW: it's where you go to start **** for no reason to waste a few hours.
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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 07:37 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Emeda, for one. Think she/he admitted it a few posts ago, in fact. So if one person is willing to $15/month for forum pvp...
No I paid the 15 bucks to try out the changes. I didnt pay just to post on the forums. Read what I said before you think.

Your the target Bioware audience. You will read anything and take from it what you want too without actually understanding what is said.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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DarthTHC
07.27.2012 , 07:38 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
lol, I still remember eveyone saying how Bioware was down below 500k or something then "oops" still had 1.3 million subs. Now theyre saying the same thing ... saying its lost even more subs than it lost last time in the same amount of time, even though the gameplay has improved tenfold since 1.3 and has actually been attracting new players.

Oh and lol at those talking like the 6 month subs are going to be incredibly significant number... you know ... because there are sooooo many people out there who'd actually shell out approximately $90 sub + $60 box price in the same month for an unproven MMO. Even those that do are obviously much more dedicated fans then any of the 1 and 3 month subbers, thus much less likely to unsub specially now that the game is much better.
People would have paid for the 6 month sub for a variety of reasons. One of them is the hope that the game is good (and we humans thrive on misplaced hope!). One is to get the $3/month discount. Another is because they managed to play the game prior to release and liked what they saw (and the first 15-30 levels are amazing, right?).

Lots of reasons for 6 month subs. I doubt it's a huge number... but then again it could be a large percentage of the number they reported in March and another large percentage of the number they report this month. We won't know until they report a number that covers the period after mid-August.

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Thaltom
07.27.2012 , 07:41 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
No I paid the 15 bucks to try out the changes.
So this must be a typo then...

Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
I cancelled in feb and came back for 1.2 and then again in 1.3 to see if anything got better. Plus the forums are so much fun that its worth the 15 every few months.

Also did the numbers and it came to 435,500 subs. Which includes F2P accounts. So my number is lower than that but remember that includes all the people that came back to test 1.3 and the server merge so the averages are slightly on the high side because of that. So if someone said 350k I wouldnt agrue with that but anything over that then I dont know what people are looking at.
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grandmthethird
07.27.2012 , 07:41 AM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
If you enjoy the game then a) why are you on the forums instead of in the game and b) why are you on the forums where negativity reigns?
the forums are for players to give feedback, and communicate with the community and for the devs to give information, not for trolls to make every thread a misery and try to drive away other players . your logic is crazy, of course a fan of swtor would use the swtor forums, do you think if i use a forum that means i have to hate the product of the forum i'm using??? you have no soncept of what a forum is for then

also do you think, i wake up switch swtor on, play, then go to bed, wake up switch swtor on play then go to bed.

there are many activity's my day consists of, and finding time to come to the forum is not a problem, but it doesn't stop me enjoying the game. i'm sure i have racked up quite a number of posts on the forums, but also i have 3 level 50s and a level 39.

wow look at that i can use the forums and play swtor, its not a choose one or the other thing for me and i still have time for my family and work. maybe hating is more time consuming than enjoying that what you do and enjoying life
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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 07:41 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
lol, I still remember eveyone saying how Bioware was down below 500k or something then "oops" still had 1.3 million subs. Now theyre saying the same thing ... saying its lost even more subs than it lost last time in the same amount of time, even though the gameplay has improved tenfold since 1.3 and has actually been attracting new players.

Oh and lol at those talking like the 6 month subs are going to be incredibly significant number... you know ... because there are sooooo many people out there who'd actually shell out approximately $90 sub + $60 box price in the same month for an unproven MMO. Even those that do are obviously much more dedicated fans then any of the 1 and 3 month subbers, thus much less likely to unsub specially now that the game is much better.
I think you would be surprised how many bought the 6 month sub. BioWare had a lot of fans who really enjoyed thier games, thus had a lot of faith in them to deliver. However, that may not be the case now. DA2, ME3 ending and now TOR....I donot think they enjoy that large fan base devotion like they use to.
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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 07:44 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
So this must be a typo then...
You are reading too much in there. Emeda also said he/she came back with each content patch in hopes things had got better. The real reason she/he resubbed. Not to troll the forums. Stop with the personal attacks.
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