EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

Nope they are trying to kill the game with the conjecture bat. Not a one of them know jack about squat, but the need to post negativity on a daily basis, drive new players away, drive those of us that actually enjoy the game crazy...is...well, overwhelming for some.

If you enjoy the game then a) why are you on the forums instead of in the game and b) why are you on the forums where negativity reigns?

Are you saying most players are like sheep and cannot think for themselves? The game has a lot of issues and it is better some know up front about some of them , than later down the road which some may leave in bitterness, which can be worse. And BioWare is not reading these forums? They should'nt base thier decisions just on the feedback on the forums, but on thier own internal tracking. But ignoring the forums? That could explain some things.

You donot agree with some of the issues and that is ok, you are entitled to your own opinion. But many others think the issues they raise are legit ones and bring them up in hopes the game can be improved.

As its been said since day 1...

There is a concentrated, cohesive effort, driven largely by the Internet, to fail this game. It's a combination of several things:

1. The SWG community backlash. This game wasn't designed for them.
2. EA backlash
3. Bioware backlash for a series of poorly received games
4. Finally, a mob like cohesive force that is drive by the need for a self serving "win", whereas they can claim they knew the game would fail because the designers did not listen to them. While this phenomenon noted in several other games, it's strangely strong here. Most likely driven by the nature of gamers in general and the hype set by EA putting the game on an impossible pedestal.

A) Some of us have jobs that have downtime. On that downtime we can look over the forums. Some of us have smartphones and can view the forums when we have some wait time (e.g. doctor's office)... but you already knew the answers to these questions. No one asks "why are you on the forums instead of in the game?" unless they already know the answer. They just want us to type this out every time you ask.

B) I'm a masochist? A terrible terrible masochist.

They are educated guesses. The guesses are from collecting data to determine the thresholds for each level by taking the high of light and the low of standard and narrowing down the posible number it could be. Also determining who made errors and gave false information. The person who listed heavy as 850 would be an example of that case.

The only reason you wont accept it is because you dont like the number that has came from it. Even though you have no data at all to dispute it.

I know if the formula showed 1.6 million subs you would somehow accept it then since its a number that is better for the game.

Again its not 100% accurate but it is close enough with a margin of error to give a general sub rate.

You believe far too much in conspiracy theories. In order to post on these forums, people will have had to pay for the game ($60+) and to post for longer than a month, they have to buy a monthly sub.

To suggest that more than a few people would do that is just.... conspiracy theorist. And if that's how you get your kicks, there are a lot more fun and intriguing conspiracies to subscribe to than a bunch of nutjobs trying to crash an MMO.

People come here to complain because they had expectations about the game, which all boil down to it being fun for them, and the game failed to meet those expectations. Some come to vent their frustration. Some come to offer the best constructive criticism they can. Some come to warn others that the game may not be what they perceive to be either.

And once their subs run out, they stop posting. Because, really, how many people are going to pay $15 a month just to b***h on an Internet forum?

Emeda, for one. Think she/he admitted it a few posts ago, in fact. So if one person is willing to $15/month for forum pvp...

Yes, I'll give you that a few will do that. Maybe even a handful. Like 10 tops. That doesn't make a conspiracy. That makes a handful of people for whom we should feel sadness at the state of their lives.

So you would rather the new players only get one side of the story? From the fanboiz that say the game is growing and everything is just dandy.

I am not telling anyone not to buy the game because of me or anyone else.

All the posts are basically dirrected at Bioware and EA telling them that they can say all they want to but we dont believe them just because they said it.

Wasnt it the may call that they posted a 400k drop in subs but just a week or two before they said the subs were growing?

One thing to think about. If it wasnt for the haters then nothing would ever get fixed or added to the game. If no one complains then there is no reason to fix things or add anything because they are happy and will continue to sub right.