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Timtimbot
07.26.2012 , 02:16 PM | #71
Let me set you straight OP. The only talk of f2p for swtor's has been for the f2fifteen. When bioware has been asked (and they have at least twice from blog interviews) if swtor would take up a f2p business mode, the reply and i quote "no" "at most we'd be looking at getting new players into the game with a f2p to a certain level. So new players can experience the game" "people who play the old republic, enjoy playing the old republic" "we want to try an bring those new players in to the game to experience it, and enjoy it"

So as you can see the blogs an bioware have spoken on this. Now that Ivm logged in on my phone im going to start shutting these f2p post back down the throats of the OP's
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LibertySol
07.26.2012 , 02:18 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by DorkTrooper View Post
I don't care one iota about GW2, but I don't want to see SWTOR go the same subscription model as GW2, even if it would bring more players to the game.

The only way I would even consider continuing to play under a B2P model would be if the P2P option (without a big price jack) was still there, and provided access to everything the B2P version has (with in-game resources, no additional real money).

I don't mind grinding credits to have said access, as long as it's there in-game. I'm not going to pay real money per item/quest/whatever because a) it's more expensive b) it's inconvenient and c) that isn't the payment model I signed up for. If I wanted to play a F2P/B2P game, I would have signed up for one initially.

The other option I would consider is lifetime subscription, but again, only if it includes everything covered by B2P.
B2P isn't Pay to Win. In a B2P model the only things you could buy would be convience and cosmetic items. And most of those items could be gotten through normally playing the game.

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LibertySol
07.26.2012 , 02:19 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Timtimbot View Post
Let me set you straight OP. The only talk of f2p for swtor's has been for the f2fifteen. When bioware has been asked (and they have at least twice from blog interviews) if swtor would take up a f2p business mode, the reply and i quote "no" "at most we'd be looking at getting new players into the game with a f2p to a certain level. So new players can experience the game" "people who play the old republic, enjoy playing the old republic" "we want to try an bring those new players in to the game to experience it, and enjoy it"

So as you can see the blogs an bioware have spoken on this. Now that Ivm logged in on my phone im going to start shutting these f2p post back down the throats of the OP's
That's nice but I posted multiple articles and quotes already proving this. They never said no. If you have a quote to back up your claim I'd glady read it.

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cipero
07.26.2012 , 02:19 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Timtimbot View Post
Let me set you straight OP. The only talk of f2p for swtor's has been for the f2fifteen. When bioware has been asked (and they have at least twice from blog interviews) if swtor would take up a f2p business mode, the reply and i quote "no" "at most we'd be looking at getting new players into the game with a f2p to a certain level. So new players can experience the game" "people who play the old republic, enjoy playing the old republic" "we want to try an bring those new players in to the game to experience it, and enjoy it"

So as you can see the blogs an bioware have spoken on this. Now that Ivm logged in on my phone im going to start shutting these f2p post back down the throats of the OP's
Glad you were able to read since the name of the thread is B2P and not F2P. kthnxbye
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cipero
07.26.2012 , 02:22 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by LibertySol View Post
B2P isn't Pay to Win. In a B2P model the only things you could buy would be convience and cosmetic items. And most of those items could be gotten through normally playing the game.
That's what most people don't understand about the in game store in GW. Sure, it's convenient to buy a pack of undiscovered dyes, but you also find plenty of dyes just by playing the game. Sure it's conveniant to buy a magic key to unlock that magic treasure chest you looted, but you can also get the keys just naturally playing the game. Random loot is random.
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Trenter
07.26.2012 , 02:27 PM | #76
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I fail to understand how you can deem it a failure, if you pay for a boxed game and your not paying for a sub. Unless the game is horrid and no-one purchases the boxed game to begin with

Players are typically more forgiving if there not paying for a subscription fee
If no one plays the game they purchased because it's a boring POS I guess you could deem it a failure, right?
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KBSIP
07.26.2012 , 02:28 PM | #77
If the revenue sharing agreement with LA and EA is similar to the one carried out by SOE, it is based off a percentage of subscription revenues. Adjusting this agreement to shift to a B2P model would be exceedingly difficult. For this reason alone I sincerely doubt SWTOR will ever be allowed to go B2P while retaining the star wars licensing.

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DorkTrooper
07.26.2012 , 02:29 PM | #78
B2P isn't Pay to Win. In a B2P model the only things you could buy would be convience and cosmetic items.

I still don't want it here. There are plenty of other games that have that model. I prefer having other options, like this one.

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LibertySol
07.26.2012 , 02:31 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by DorkTrooper View Post
B2P isn't Pay to Win. In a B2P model the only things you could buy would be convience and cosmetic items.

I still don't want it here. There are plenty of other games that have that model. I prefer having other options, like this one.
Any particular reason (other than the ones I addressed)? If you'd rather just pay 15 a month and that's your opinion that's cool. But if you have a reason I'd like to hear it.

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DorkTrooper
07.26.2012 , 02:38 PM | #80
As mentioned before, it's even more expensive to access everything in the game (even if they're fluff items), and to me, it's inconvenient. I don't want to have to stop playing to pay up for a pair of boots, a speed boost, etc, etc. I like being able to sign up once for billing, and just play.

I also don't care to be the one out of ten who is actually paying for the game. I like it that all the players on this game have some skin in it, so to speak.
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